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Old 18-Aug-2014, 2:17 AM   #1
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need all the help I can get

I would like to get an antenna for my husband's birthday. Please let me know what I should get and what's the best way to get it installed.

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Old 18-Aug-2014, 6:08 AM   #2
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For reception of , All of the Receivable USA Tv Stations/Channels.

NBC, CBS , ABC , ( PBS - PBS World - Create ) , FOX , CW , MyNetwork , This Tv , Cozi Tv , Antenna Tv , -->And More.


And some Canada Tv Stations/Channels.

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At about 25 feet above ground.

Above the Peak of the Roof in such a manner that reception is not , obstructed , impeded , blocked , by the , attic , roof , building , in the directions of , South West , West , South South East , East.

Install a.

http://www.antennacraft.net.

HBU44 antenna.

Aimed at about 226 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas.

http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna , do not trust a , cell phone , tablet and etc. compass.

Most Digital Tv's have a Signal Strength Meter and some Digital Tv's also have a Signal Quality Meter.

As always , antenna aim and antenna location can be adjusted for best reception.

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Install a.

http://www.antennacraft.net.

10G201 preamplifier.

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For 1 Tv connected use No splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

For 4 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-4D , 4 way splitter.

Buy the , HFS-2D , HFS-3D , HFS-4D , splitters at.

http://www.hollandelectronics.com

or

http://www.amazon.com.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html. Install the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html. Install the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html. Measure around the chimney and install a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224) .

http://www.ronard.com.

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Home Depot has , 10 foot 6 inch length , 1 and 3/8 inch diameter , TOP RAIL , chain link fence , PIPE , that makes good antenna mast/pipe , the price is low at about 12 dollars.

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Also know this.

As always , trees and tree leaves , plants and plant leaves , have Negative Effect on Broadcast Tv Reception and so do buildings and other obstructions including your own , attic , roof , building.

Some and not all Negative Effects are.

Absorbing and Blocking Reception.

Multi-Path Reflecting Tv Signals Bouncing All Around.

The Best Practice for Reliable Reception is to install the HBU44 antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions in the directions of reception including your own , attic , roof , building.

In other words , the clearer the path from the transmitter to the HBU44 Tv antenna in the directions of reception the better reception will be.

The tvfool radar map shows that the Main Group of Tv stations are to the South West.

With other receivable Tv stations to the , West , South South East , East.

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Old 18-Aug-2014, 7:37 AM   #3
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Greetings Joyinmyheart,

Your reception plot out of Port Huron isn't "easy," but with the proper antennas, you're chances are decent of successfully having the big 4 out of Detroit.

Being 50 miles from Detroit and in 2-edge conditions, the majority of the signals you'll be seeking are in the mid to low teens in terms of signal strength. These are trending weak to very weak. This requires a couple things. First, you have to mount your antenna outdoors. Your roof is the best location. Second, you need to make sure you have the best line of sight possible to the southwest.

An attic installation will not work in your scenario. These signals are too weak.

I would purchase (2) antennas. One would serve for UHF (real channels 14 and up) and one would serve VHF (real channels 7-13).

Antenna 1: Antennas Direct DB8e
Antenna 2: Antennacraft Y10713

Mount antenna on your chimney mount with a 10' chain link fence pole from your local super hardware type store (lowe's, home depot, etc.). If a chimney mount isn't an option use a Winegard three legged tripod mount.

Both antennas should be orientated to magnetic heading 230. I'd expect ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS and FOX.

How many TVs do you plan to serve? Before I go deeper into your setup, the # of televisions being served will create different requirements for the system.

Cheers.

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Old 18-Aug-2014, 8:48 AM   #4
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Thank you for the help! Here is my results at 25 ft. The original was set at 15.
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I'd like to hook up 3 tvs.

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Old 18-Aug-2014, 8:55 AM   #5
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Years ago I was recommended the winegard hd7698p. What are you thoughts on it?
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Old 18-Aug-2014, 4:38 PM   #6
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All three recommendations are valid. The HBU-44 and HD7698P are close competitors in terms of performance.

I'd favor the DB8E + Y10713 combination for it's flexibility of aiming.
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Old 19-Aug-2014, 2:51 AM   #7
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The Winegard is an excellent antenna in the correct application. In your situation I'd not use it for two reasons. First, you are in 2-edge conditions. The DB8e has a larger surface area to collect UHF signals from the air. This especially becomes important when 2-edge TV signals can "bend" and "shift" a bit due to the obstructions they are pushing through and having their path modified. The DB8e's large surface area gives you an antenna that keeps a shifting signal locked on better than a narrow beam type of antenna with less surface area.

Second, when you get to these weak to very weak signals, you want an antenna that is giving you the best chance at reception. The DB8e is specialized for weak UHF signals, the Y10713 is specialized for weak VHF signals. With the two antenna set up, your bang for the buck in terms of performace is slightly higher than just a Winegard or HBU44.

With 3 TVs being served, I would purchase a mast mount Antennas Direct EU385CF signal combiner. DB8e jumper coax to the UHF input, Y10713 coax to the VHF input. Run coax into home into a Channel Master 3414 4 port distribution amp. This compensates for the loss of signal that happens when you "split" an antenna feed. Think of it like a stream of water, as additional smaller streams branch off the main stream's water flow weakens. If it is split too many times the original stream turns into a trickle. This is the same with TV signals. With TV signals, what you see is loss of reception.

Many times people install antennas and split 3 or 4 times with a standard splitter. Then they run into some problems on 1 or 2 of the TVs because some channels drop out while other TVs have no problems. This is precisely where you need the distribution amplfier. You install on the single coax that comes from the antenna, then via the distribution amplifier you branch out each additional line to each TV. The desired goal is to compensate for losses of coaxial signal that happens when it is split.

Do you have any trees to contend with?

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Years ago I was recommended the winegard hd7698p. What are you thoughts on it?
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Old 19-Aug-2014, 8:19 AM   #8
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I may have 1 tree in the way, but I'm not sure the antenna will be pointed that way, so I may just miss it.
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