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Old 22-Feb-2012, 8:14 PM   #1
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Here's my location:

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It appears as though I'm in an "easy" location, with LOS to most, if not all, Chicago stations. I'm considering the Winegard HD7694P.

I have two questions:

1) Is this antenna a good choice for an an attic installation (1 story ranch house)?

2) What if I get greedy and want to try and tune in some Rockford or Milwaukee stations? If I were to mount on the roof instead of the attic, and upgrade to, say, the HD9697P, would that increase my chances of receiving these stations? Or is the aiming of the antenna the key issue? I really don't want to introduce the hassle of a rotor. If it's a pipe dream I'll live happily with the Chicago stations.
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 9:04 PM   #2
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For reception of the tv stations other then the tv stations to the south east will require 3 separate Large antennas and for the effort you will get about 5 channels like more ABC , CBS , NBC .
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 9:20 PM   #3
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This recommendation is based on the current and Pending Applications Included for 02-22-2012. Install a Winegard HD7084P antenna above the roof for the reception of digital tv channels all the way down to WOCK Tv 4 . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOCK-CD , http://americaone.com. And on past WOCK down to WEDE-CA 34 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEDE-CA , http://amgtv.tv . Aim the antenna at 128 degree magnetic compass. Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html. Here are some antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/909911.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html , http://www.ronard.com, type the word , ronard , in the http://www.solidsignal.com search box or buy from ronard. Here are places to buy antennas and etc. , http://www.winegarddirect.com , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com , http://www.starkelectronic.com , http://www.3starinc.com.

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Old 22-Feb-2012, 9:32 PM   #4
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2) What if I get greedy and want to try and tune in some Rockford or Milwaukee stations? If I were to mount on the roof instead of the attic, and upgrade to, say, the HD9697P, would that increase my chances of receiving these stations? Or is the aiming of the antenna the key issue? I really don't want to introduce the hassle of a rotor. If it's a pipe dream I'll live happily with the Chicago stations.
It is not the HD9697P; it is the 7697P. If restricted to a choice between the HD7694P AND THE HD7697P, then I would go with the HD7697P. It should easily pull in the Hi-VHF and UHF stations in Rockford. If, however, I could get the Rockford stations, then I would also want other stations of similar signal strength. You have Lo-VHF stations like WLFM RF-6 and WWAZ RF-5 in this group. You like Winegard. Consider the HD7084P.
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 9:33 PM   #5
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How many Tv's are/will be connected??
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 9:38 PM   #6
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The HD7084P antenna receives Tv channels , 2 thru 6 VHF low band , 7 thru 13 VHF high band , 14 thru 69 UHF. WOCK channel 4 is in the VHF low band.
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 9:46 PM   #7
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The , HD7694P , HD7695P , HD7696P , HD7697P , HD7698P , antennas receive , 7 thru 13 VHF high band and 14 thru 69 UHF. The HD769XP series of antennas do not receive , 2 thru 6 VHF low band. Putting a antenna in the attic will not get any of the digital channels in the red reception zone of the current and Pending Applications Included digital channels
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:16 PM   #8
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It is not the HD9697P; it is the 7697P. If restricted to a choice between the HD7694P AND THE HD7697P, then I would go with the HD7697P. It should easily pull in the Hi-VHF and UHF stations in Rockford. If, however, I could get the Rockford stations, then I would also want other stations of similar signal strength. You have Lo-VHF stations like WLFM RF-6 and WWAZ RF-5 in this group. You like Winegard. Consider the HD7084P.
Yes, my mistake... I meant the HD7697P.

My understanding is that the Lo-VHF stations are eventually going away or moving to higher frequencies? And since the few Lo-VHF's that are there didn't seem to be of interest (WOCK is Spanish language, WWAZ if off the air according to Wikipedia, WLFM appears to be a radio station) I disregarded Lo-VHF altogether. Is this a mistake?

I'm not necessarily partial to Winegard... from what I've read they just seem to make an all-around quality product. If you have a solution from another manufacturer, I'm open to it.
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:19 PM   #9
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WWAZ-TV 5 is currently - Silent - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWAZ-TV , http://transition.fcc-bin/tvq?call=WWAZ. . And WLFM 6 , Analog channel 6 is transmitting as a FM Radio Station. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLFM-LP. Actually Analog channel 6 stations have been transmitting the FM audio carrier in low end of the FM radio band for , many , many years. And will most likely come to a end in year 2015 when all remaining low power analog tv channels 2 thru 69 will need to convert to a digital channel of 2 thru 51 , or cease transmission.
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:20 PM   #10
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How many Tv's are/will be connected??
One at first, probably 2 at most.
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:32 PM   #11
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The suggested HD7084 will serve well for local reception. WOCK caries four sub-channels according to www.rabbitears.info - including America One network (if that is of interest to you).

Milwaukee appears to be out of reach but Rockford might be worth trying for.

If I were to try for the Rockford signals, I'd be inclined to build a separate antenna system using an HD7698P or a combination of 91XG and Y-10713. I'd also look at reasonable options to mount as high as practical.

Combining the local and DX systems can be done several ways... http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=2882
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:35 PM   #12
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It is not the HD9697P; it is the 7697P. If restricted to a choice between the HD7694P AND THE HD7697P, then I would go with the HD7697P. It should easily pull in the Hi-VHF and UHF stations in Rockford. If, however, I could get the Rockford stations, then I would also want other stations of similar signal strength. You have Lo-VHF stations like WLFM RF-6 and WWAZ RF-5 in this group. You like Winegard. Consider the HD7084P.
Yes, sorry... I meant the HD7697P.

It is my understanding that the Lo-VHF stations will eventually be moved out of the Lo-VHF range? Also WLFM and WWAZ are of no interest to me. That's why I disregarded the Lo-VHF range altogether.

I'm not partial to Winegard. They just seem to make a good quality product from what I've read. If you have a solution from another manufacturer, I'm open to it.

So even without a rotor, you think a roof-mounted antenna would get Rockford (which is nearly 180° from Chicago)?
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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:37 PM   #13
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Well actually it looks like it is now channels 2 thru 50 because the international corporations of the cell phone / broadband industry have managed to get the FCC = Federal Communications Commission , to stop issuing any more Tv licenses of channel 51 to Tv stations. Here is a truth that the general public is not aware of , the international cell phone and broadband corporations would , buy/Steal all of the remaining Free Tv Channels if they can , and then turn around and charge you a Monthly Subscription or sell you whats left of the formerly free broadcast tv , at a fair price. Not!!!!

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Old 22-Feb-2012, 10:53 PM   #14
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The key word is - eventually. That will likley be several years from now. It won't be any time soon. If you will like to go with an other manufacture then http://www.channelmasterstore.com , CM3671 all channel antenna to replace the HD7084P. The Channel Master 7 thru 69 antennas can not match the Winegard antennas HD769xP antennas for reception. There was a time when Channel Master was a proud company that made high quality products.

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Old 23-Feb-2012, 5:39 PM   #15
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This is a interesting statement that you made. "I am not partial to Winegard , They just seem to make a good quality product from what I have read." . Winegard is mostly what I recommend because of the good to excellent quality. I am aware of and understand Many Other antennas and I will and do recommend brands and model numbers of antennas that will get the job done of the best way.
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