outside antenna Trees everywhere

[pat191]

I ask about antenna in past and it was suggested a large one with an amp. Cannot remember which one, but at the time it was out of stock. Anyway I was hoping there would be some newer types that may work for us here near National Forest area.Cutting down a tree is not an option If not what is your recommendation. Our old beat up antenna can receive pbs channel 6, channel 10 goes off in evening and channel 13 is hardly ever watchable for long but not at night. There is no amplifier on the antenna. Are there antenna for more than 60 miles range? Thank you Pat

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[Flint Ridge]

A bit more information would be helpful.

Any idea as to what antenna you have now? Possibly a picture? I'm thinking you might have a VHF only antenna.

Channel 6 is VHF, as is 10. Could you provide the call letters to Channel 13? As this does not show up on your tvfool report. With this we could know for sure if it is VHF or UHF. Then we can discuss further.

Yes there are antennas that reach farther than 60 miles, especially with a proper amp, coax etc.

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Above the Peak of the Roof install a

http://www.antennacraft.net

HD1800 All channel antenna aimed at about 231 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna , do not trust a , cell phone , tablet and etc. compass.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/712.html.
Install the , ronard(712-50-10) , 10 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html.
Install the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html.
Install the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.
Measure around the chimney and use a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224) .

http://www.ronard.com.

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Home Depot has , 10 foot 6 inch length , 1 and 3/8 inch diameter , TOP RAIL , chain link fence , PIPE , that makes good antenna mast pipe , the cost is low at about 10 dollars.

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Install a

http://www.antennacraft.net.

10G201 preamp.

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For 1 Tv connected use No splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

Buy the HFS-2D , HFS-3D , splitters at , http://www.hollandelectronics.com , or , http://www.amazon.com.

[Flint Ridge]

KOVR is UHF, but it is also a strong Line Of Sight station.

Could this be one of the situations where a DB8e could be used? It has the capability to open up the beam width. Some experimenting could be done there. Then the standard Y10-7-13 for the HiVHF side? Aimed around 240 degrees. (Presuming channel 3 and 2 are not needed? If so, then that is LoVHF and further complicates things.) Combined with the RCA PRIMA amp.

[pat191]

I do not know what a DBBe is. As for channel 3 it would be great to have it but as I recall from yesteryear I was never able to receive channel 3 before things changed to digital either. I like to keep things simple. I just want to throw something up there and watch tv without it going in and out.
Thanks
Pat

[Flint Ridge]

Sorry, Antennas Direct DB8e, and you need more feedback than just mine! http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...u=817848011620

Plus the Antenna Craft http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...u=716079000994

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A 1 antenna solution.

The Antenna Craft HD1800 is a , All Channel Antenna that receives All the Channels , 2 thru 51.

[pat191]

The HD 1800 all channel antenna that was recommended is out of stock online and not available for any store in my area.That looks similar to what my antenna used to look like in better days.
Any other suggestions ?
Thank you for your help and maybe there is something else out there that would work. Is the DBBe an option? Flint was asking for further input on that.
Pat

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Looks like

http://www.summitsource.com

and

http://www.solidsignal.com

Have the HD1800 antenna in stock.

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The DB8e is designed to receive the Current UHF channels 14 thru 51.

Your reception location has channels in All 3 Tv bands

VHF low band channels 2 thru 6.

VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

The Current UHF band channels 14 thru 51.

A All Channel Antenna is better for reception.

[tomfoolery]

Solid Signal shows it, and I put one in my cart as a test and it didn't kick back as out of stock. They have a phone number you can call to check, just to be sure.

HD1800 at Solid Signal

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Living in the Dense Trees like in the Picture

IS NOT a Good Idea and IS NOT Good for Tv Reception.

If the HD1800 does not produce good reception.

Then Cut the Trees Down in the direction of reception.

Or

A Smaller antenna can be installed --> Up High <-- in a tall straight pine tree.

And Up High means--> Up High.

Install a

http://www.antennacraft.net

HD850 antenna.

Here is a antenna mount for installing a antenna Up High in a Pine tree.

http://www.ronard.com/tree_adjust.html.

[pat191]

Thanks for the links. Looks like I have some homework to do.
Will follow up later...Pat

[pat191]

While I was thinking about mounting in a tall tree, all I could think of
was lightning

[timgr]

Originally Posted by pat191

While I was thinking about mounting in a tall tree, all I could think of
was lightning

You should ground the antenna in anticipation of lightning strike, regardless of whether its on the roof or in a tree. You also isolate the feed-in from lightning. This has been discussed a lot here. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...+and+grounding

Member GroundUrMast knows a lot about this ... I expect he will reply. As I recall, he points to this thread http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=901 as a primer on the subject.

[GroundUrMast]

Thanks timgr. While I have an interest in the subject, I'm not a licensed electrician or inspector.

If one was to install an antenna in a tree, you'll want to consider using coax with a messenger wire molded into the jacket. You see this type used by the cable TV company from the pole to the house. The messenger is able to serve two purposes. First, it is a strong supporting member and second, it can be used as a grounding conductor between an antenna mast and the electrical service ground.