expertise wanted to land one more channel

[epricer]

I'm impressed with the community support provided here. Thanks in advance for extending it to me.

My signal analysis report has been helpful. All of the channels that I want are located at 77 degrees. With an old 2 bay bowtie antenna mounted on a short mast at 16ft AG I've been able to pull in all but CBS (22). NBC (14) is a little weak, but watchable.

I'm looking to replace the antenna with the goal of improving 14 and getting 22, but rather than make an educated guess I figured I would see what the experts think.

Thanks

[ADTech]

The CBS station is a VHF channel 13 operation. You probably need a medium range high-VHF/UHF combo instead of a 2-bay UHF design.

The Current Broadcast Tv stations/channels in the , USA , Canada , Mexico , are.

VHF low band channels 2 thru 6.

VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

UHF band channels 14 thru 51.

Your location has receivable channels in the VHF high band and UHF band.

Recommend install a Channel Master CM4228HD , UHF/VHF high band antenna aimed at about 92 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna.

Your location has receivable broadcast Tv stations in the directions of , East , South East , South , South West , West , North West , North , North East.

The Best Pratice is to install the CM4228HD antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in all of the directions.

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Install a Channel Master CM7778 preamp.

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For 1 Tv connected use No splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

Buy the HFS splitters at , http://www.solidsignal.com.

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A Winegard DS3000 J pole type antenna mount works Ok with the CM4228HD antenna.

Here sre some more antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html.
Use the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html.
Use the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.
Measure around the chimney and use a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224).

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at , http://www,solidsignal.com , or buy from , http://www.ronard.com.

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Here are some places to buy antennas ans etc. .

http://www.solidsignal.com.

http://www.amazon.com.

http://www.channelmasterstore.com.

http://www.winegarddirect.com

http://www.ronard.com.

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Use the CM4228HD antenna to test reception of 2 Canada Digital Broadcast Tv stations/channels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBFT-DT.

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBMT-DT.

To Test reception , turn the antenna by hand to about 360 degree magnetic compass direction.

Rescan for channels.

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Digital broadcast Tv tuners can develop - Digital Glitchs - that are not cleared out with simple channel scans.

Do Double Rescan , http://www.wchstv.com/DoubleReScanAlert.pdf.

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If Canada channels are received and will like to continue to receive Canada channels.

Install a Second antenna system that is the same as the first antenna system.

The 2 antenna systems are 2 Complete Separate antenna systems , that Are Not connected together.

A remote control A/B antenna switch is used to select antenna systems.

A/B Antenna Switching is Channel Surfing Friendly , press the button on the hand held remote control , change antennas and keep on channel surfing.

http://www.mcmelectronics.cm.

Remote control A/B antenna switch , 32-4425.

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More information.

WCFE-DT channel 38 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCFE-DT , is strong signal strength and will be received through the back of the CM4228HD antenna.

When the antenna is aimed at about 92 degree magnetic compass direction.

W46ED-D 46 and W25BT-D 25 , Repeater transmitters , are the same as WCFE-DT 38.

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[Tower Guy]

Originally Posted by epricer

Rather than make an educated guess I figured I would see what the experts think.

Thanks

Choice 1 is a single antenna: Winegard HD7698P

Choice 2 is two antennas. It will work better on UHF, but cost more and be more complicated:
UHF 91XG
VHF Y10-7-13
Combine them using a UVSJ

[epricer]

Originally Posted by ADTech

The CBS station is a VHF channel 13 operation. You probably need a medium range high-VHF/UHF combo instead of a 2-bay UHF design.

Perhaps I'm not reading this right, but I see WCAX-DT (CBS) as channel 22. Note that I do receive channel 14-WPTZ-DT (NBC) somewhat, but do not receive 13-WVNY-DT (ABC) at all.

Based on my understanding, I should I expect the CM4228HD to perform significantly better for channel 13 than the Eagle Aspen EASDTV2BUHF 2 bay, but what about 22 and 14?

Thanks for the quick responses.

[ADTech]

Oops, you're right. I got the "22"s mixed up. Sorry about that detail. The recommendation remains the same. I'd prefer to go with a more conventional recommendation rather than hoping for out of design-band reception. Tower Guy's recommendations are spot-on.

As per the , http://www.channelmasterstore.com , website shows that the CM4228HD receives the UHF band channels 14 thru 51 and VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

[ADTech]

..and it has minimal specifications regarding such performance.

[GroundUrMast]

Originally Posted by Tower Guy

Choice 1 is a single antenna: Winegard HD7698P

Choice 2 is two antennas. It will work better on UHF, but cost more and be more complicated:
UHF 91XG
VHF Y10-7-13
Combine them using a UVSJ

Both are good options, I lean toward option 2... It makes the most of your chances at seeing the Fox affiliate WFFF. The path profile of WFFF makes me wonder if mounting a bit higher would change your signal conditions significantly.

A TV Fool report based on 25' or 30' would be interesting to look at.

[epricer]

WFFF actually comes in clearly now. It's one of the stronger channels. I should have been explicit. With the 2 bay I get:
WCFE-DT (Strong)
WFFF-DT (Medium)
WETK-DT (Medium)
WPTZ-DT (Weak, Breaks up depending on weather)

I don't get:
WCAX-DT
WVNY-DT

I have to say that the pattern doesn't make much sense to me.

I ordered the CM4228HD before people started lining up behind Tower Guy. I can try it out to see how it does, but is it realistic to think it will be sufficiently better on Channel 22 vs. my cheap 2 bay?

Going up to 30' boosts the NM(dB) values by about 4 - I don't know if that is significant. Selling my wife on a taller mast may be tough.