Thanks Sorzy. I don't think I have any problem of being to close to the towers as I am almost 60 miles from them. I didn't give up just been busy. I actually took the old Channel Master antenna and hooked it up to my detached garage. It somehow works better pointed more east than it was pointed before but still doesn't get CBS and a few others like 66.3 and 66.2. Not trying for FM either.