Need an antenna with new room

[capyberra]

Hey guys, I could use a little help. I have been getting my basic network channels with an RCA amplified indoor antenna (mostly) but I have a new addition and the foil on the insulation makes for bad reception. I actually brought the TV and antenna into room and into 2nd floor and attic but no good. I figured I'd go with an outdoor antenna on the roof (aprox 20'). Here is my TV fool analysis

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d60b5a4d1906cdf

I'm just looking for the basic channels (the top 7). It's just the 1 TV with no splitters and preferably no amp. The room broke the bank, so the cheaper the better. Thanks for any help you can give me.

[John Candle]

I recommend a Antennas Direct CV2 , Clear Stream 2 V. http://www.antennasdirect.com/store/ClearStream-C2-VHF-Combo.html , aimed at about 260 degree magnetic compass. Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html

[capyberra]

Thanks for the links, John. I thought I was going to need a big yagi. My wife was willing to put up with it, but she'll be pleased with the clearstream's small footprint. And it has the J-mount. Thank you.

[Tigerbangs]

Don't expect the Clearstream 2 to get WBRE and WYOU reliably: it's strictly a UHF antenna, and any VHF reception you get from it would be incidental: A better choice, and cheaper, too, would be to use an AntennaCraft HBU-22

[ADTech]

Don't expect the Clearstream 2 to get WBRE and WYOU reliably: it's strictly a UHF antenna, and any VHF reception you get from it would be incidental: A better choice, and cheaper, too, would be to use an AntennaCraft HBU-22

It's the C2v that was suggested, not the original C2. The "v" version is new as of mid-August.

[John Candle]

It's the C2V UHF/VHF high band antenna. As always , when a antenna is installed and is pointed at about the recommended degrees magnetic compass , As an example , if one is standing behind the antenna , the antenna is turned to the left and right to find a place that produces the strongest reception of the stations/channels that are being received. You are shooting for the stations from 294 to 228 degree magnetic compass.

[John Candle]

As all ways , tv antennas receive the best when the tv antenna has elbow room , do not aim the antenna in to the roof of the house , do not aim the antenna in to a chimney , Tv antennas receive the best when the tv antenna has a clear shot at the transmitting antennas , the more that is in the way the less the reception will be.

[capyberra]

Thanks for the tips. I have a couple of big trees about 20'-30' in the direction of the majority of transmitters (nothing in the direction of the 2 transmitters 4 miles away). I'm assuming that shouldn't be a problem since my indoor amplified RCA pulls them in. The indoor antenna sits on the 2nd floor and I was planning on mounting the new antenna on the roof (almost directly above where the indoor one is now).

[John Candle]

The roof of a 2 story house , you should be fine. Here are some antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/909911.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html. Here are some places to buy antenna mounts and etc. , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com , http://www.starkelectronic.com , http://www.3starinc.com

[Tower Guy]

I recommend a Antennas Direct CV2 , Clear Stream 2 V. http://www.antennasdirect.com/store/ClearStream-C2-VHF-Combo.html , aimed at about 60 degree magnetic compass.

The CV2 may work, but I would aim it at about 230°.

A better choice is adding a Y5-7-13 aimed at 216° to a C-2 using a UVSJ.

[ADTech]

This TVFool is as close to a "perfect" match for the C2v as I've seen. I've seen it work perfectly in far, far worse scenarios.

BTW, I just noticed that our web guy got the formal datasheet for the C2v posted to our website. It's available at http://www.antennasdirect.com/cmss_files/attachmentlibrary/C2%2BVHF-TDS.pdf

[Tower Guy]

This TVFool is as close to a "perfect" match for the C2v as I've seen. I've seen it work perfectly in far, far worse scenarios.

BTW, I just noticed that our web guy got the formal datasheet for the C2v posted to our website. It's available at http://www.antennasdirect.com/cmss_files/attachmentlibrary/C2%2BVHF-TDS.pdf

The UHF portion will probably have trouble if aimed at 60 degrees. Use 230 instead.

[John Candle]

I corrected my typo above , aim the antenna at about 260 degree magnetic compass. Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna.pointing/pointing.html

[Tigerbangs]

$120.00 for an antenna when a $30.00 antenna will do? What price is it to be paid to be inconspicuous?

[capyberra]

I'm all for cheap Tigerbangs. I was looking for the cheapest setup that would get me the basic channels. The reason I posted here was that I wanted to avoid either overpaying or getting garbage that didn't do the job. Thanks for the advice.

[John Candle]

Read and understand about , REAL Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Virtual Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Analog Broadcast Tv Channels , http://forum.tvfool/showthread.php?t=695. Here are some tv guides , http://www.zap2it.com , http://www.titantv.com , http://tv.yahoo.com , http://tv.entertainment.excite.com , http://www.tvzap.com , http://television.aol.com. Most channels are listed as , virtual channels. Also please note that digital tv stations and digital tv channels can begin digital broadcast at any time with out prior notice so is a good idea to scan for digital channels from time to time.

[John Candle]

Looking for the cheap , well cheap is cheap.

[John Candle]

Also , 2 analog tv channels are receivable at your location. The first one is W67DE 67 , the network is http://americaone.com. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYLN-LP , http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=32269

[John Candle]

The second one is , W24DB 24 , It looks like the network is FOX , http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=52077 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOLF-TV

[Tigerbangs]

The AntennaCraft HBU-22 is an inexpensive, well-made antenna that is not a gimmick rip-off: It's a conventional antenna that is well=proved, and more than adequate for your needs. There is nothing wrong with AntennasDirect products, either, but they do tend to charge a lot of money when simple and inexpensive solutions exist. Their products feature compact size and more pleasing design than conventional antennas. The question is whether or not the aesthetics of their products are worth the 200-300% premium that you pay for their style. Some of their products, like the AntennasDirect XG-91 are personal favporites of mine for deep-fringe reception, but other products that they make like their V10 and V21 VHF-UHF antennas are inferior in quality and value to products of other manufacturers.

[ADTech]

The V-series antennas that we sell aren't our own design. They're off-the-shelf models originally intended for the Australian market. Our manufacturer produces them for us as well as a pre-exisiting Australian customer. Personally, I doubt that we will carry them once existing inventories are depleted which may take years. They're actually pretty decent on VHF, but I can't get excited about their UHF performance.

[capyberra]

Ordered an HBU-22 and mount Sunday night. Antenna arrived today and I have all channels I had before but with no pixelation. This is pretty good considering I am still waiting for the mount and the antenna is sitting on my front porch (elevation 3'). I liked the looks of the clearstream but money is tight so I went the inexpensive route. Thanks to everyone who gave of their time to help.