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Old 13-Mar-2014, 8:49 PM   #1
nick731
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need help with antenna selection for whole house signal. thanks!

thanks in advance for your great advice and sharing of knowledge!!

here are my tvfool signal results:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...5b94ca234ce08d

my current setup;
one tv powered by one of the amplified flat leaf amazon antennas. it works ok but doesnt get fox like i thought it would and only 4-5 channels.

goal;
our brand new house has cable run to every room.
1) I want to install one antenna that runs tv to the entire house. (except one room which will power wireless cable internet and i will use my current leaf antenna in that room. (so 4 rooms)
2) receive a better selection of channels, even if that means trying to reach closer to atlanta. currently i have 5 channels. i would like to get as many as possible, and i hear people talk about getting close to 30!

current options im looking at;
i am thinking either a very large antenna in the attic (pretty large open space attic) or a smaller antenna outside (2 story home) something like the Winegard HD7084 for the attic or the RCAANT751 for outside


im really not sure how to proceed, which antenna will work best and if i need to pick up amplifieirs etc. if you could help me out thatd be great!

im ok with spending a little more now and not always wondering "what if" lol
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 8:48 AM   #2
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As to the Leaf and other Magic Tv antennas.
The Magic Tv Antenna manufactures and sellers are retiring to a life of luxury.

I do not , manufacture , sell , recommend , and I am not a shill , for magic tv antennas.

So I live a simple life of my social security check and retirement check.

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Above the Peak of the Roof in such a manner that reception is not , obstructed , impeded , blocked , by the roof and building in the directions of , South East , South West , West North West.

Install a , http://antennacraft.net.

HD850 , aimed at about 160 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html.
Use the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html.
Use the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.
Measure around the chimney and use a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224) .

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Install a , http://www.antennacraft.net.

10G201 preamplifier.

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Install a , Leviton , model 47690-6 , 6 way splitter.

The 10G201 preamplifier , power supply / power injector , preamp unit , are all installed before the Leviton splitter input.

The Wireless internet can be put on a separate coax.

So the 5 Tv locations can be connected.

Or if the 4 outlets are to be connected , then use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-4D , 4 way splitter.

Buy the , HFS-3D , splitter at , http://www.hollandelectronics.com , or , http://www.amazon.com.

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As always , trees and tree leaves , plants and plant leaves , have a Negative Effect on Broadcast Tv Reception and so do buildings and other obstructions including your own , attic , roof , building.

Some and not all Negative Effects are.

Absorbing and blocking Reception.

Multi-Path Reflecting Tv Signals Bouncing All Around

The Best Practice for Reliable Reception is to install the antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in the directions of reception.

Last edited by teleview; 14-Mar-2014 at 8:37 PM. Reason: Clarify information and typos.
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 12:43 PM   #3
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here is the tv fool report at ground level;
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...5b94fafeafb218
25 foot;
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...5b942add9bbbda
and 50 ft;
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...5b9407ccb1e3c8
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 1:12 PM   #4
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If you want to go for the best signal, an outdoor install is best. I assume you want all you can pull. Then the ANT-751 would be a decent choice for your situation. Note that it's not rated for VHF-Lo, and Ch 6 is in the VHF-Lo spectrum. But since 6 looks like a good strong signal, I don't expect an issue there at all. Even UHF antennas can sometimes pull in some VHF if the signal is strong enough. Your flat antenna is UHF only. And the HD7084 may have a longer reach than the ANT-751, but the beam width may make it harder for you to pull from the two tower locations. Think of it as a spot light where you could better use a flood light. Putting that in the attic may not perform as well as you'd think.

The primary broadcast towers nearest you are about 90 degrees apart, so you will have to find a sweet spot in between. Your stronger stations are SE from your location, some weaker from the SSW. You can check signal strength across the channels on your TV's diagnostic screen. Always rescan after you make changes.

When you are testing and tuning, if possible, isolate the connection from the antenna to just one TV. If your coax terminates in a wiring closet, then you can disconnect from any multi-splitters. Point is, the more connections, the weaker the signal is due to being split. Once you're tuned in, then you can look at a distribution amp, which can increase the strength so that the tuners can lock it in easily. How many TV's are you connecting?
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 1:37 PM   #5
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thanks so much for the advice! i will use it to run 4-7 tvs.
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 4:49 PM   #6
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you mentioned that i had two towers about 90 degrees apart, should i use 2 different antennas and combine them using a pre amp booster?
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Old 15-Mar-2014, 4:29 PM   #7
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Combining two antennas takes a bit of planning. Just joining the signals together will usually cause more reception problems. You can't just mix the two and expect to get the best of each. Tuners tend to struggle under those conditions. There are ways to do it right, but before you make it more complex, I'd proceed w/the single antenna and see what it can do for you. I have a similar split from two good tower locations, each about 30 miles out LOS. Reception has been fine. I just found the sweet spot in between, which isn't always the middle. My approach is to go slow and keep it simple. Too much complexity in the beginning may cause problems that you don't expect.
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Old 15-Mar-2014, 5:15 PM   #8
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The Current Tv Channels that are being Transmitted and Received in the , USA , Canada , Mexico are.

VHF low band channels 2 thru 6.

VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

UHF band channels 14 thru 51.

Your reception location has Tv channels in All 3 Tv Bands.

The HD850 is Made To Receive Tv Channels of All 3 Tv Bands.

The HD850 is a small antenna with a Wide beam width.

Does well at receiving Tv stations of other directions.

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Directional antennas such as and not limited to the HD850.

Receive the best in the forward direction.

A little less at front angles to the antenna.

Less at back angles to the antenna.

Less at the back of the antenna.

And receive the least amount of signal directly on the sides of the antenna.

LOOK at the radar plot Of Receivable Tv Stations for your location , your location is in the center of the radar plot.

The TV stations in the Green and Yellow reception zones.

With the HD850 aimed at about 160 degree magnetic compass direction.

That is a in between aim direction between the 2 groups of Tv stations to the South East and South West and the Tv stations are at front angles to the antenna.

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The Radar Plot shows W35CU-D UHF channel 35.

W35CU-D UHF Channel 35 is not transmitting.

If and when W35CU-D starts transmitting it is at a back angle to the antenna when the antenna is aimed at about 160 degree magnetic compass direction.

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