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Old 29-Mar-2014, 2:16 AM   #1
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Looking for antenna recommendation for Atlantic County, NJ area

Getting fed up with Comcast's increasingly high rates, want to drop cable TV. Have 5 TVs in house right now that I'll hook up with Rokus. I'm not sure if I want to connect the TVs directly to the antenna/splitter or use two HDHomerun Pluses and stream to them (over a Roku channel like HDHRFling).

I'd prefer putting the antenna in my attic. Cable run to HDHomeruns would be less than 50', to TVs I'd have to run to original outside box and go from there so those runs would be longer.

Here is the link to my reception info: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...5b94f1cf0d882e

Really interested in the Philadelphia channels and WMGM-DT. Most Philly stations are just over 53 miles away and WMGM is 19 miles, but in a different direction.

Thanks!

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Old 29-Mar-2014, 5:09 AM   #2
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If I were in the same situation, I'd opt for an outdoor mounted antenna. The pay off would more channels received and greater reliability. There are a several stations broadcasting on Low-VHF frequencies (real CH-2 through CH-6), most notably, WPVI on real CH-6. An attic mounted antenna will be subject to more interference from electronic equipment in your home, and the roof construction will reduce the strength of desired signals. If your choice is to try from in the attic, use the largest antenna that will fit.

I'd suggest you mount outdoors, in the clear if possible, using a Winegard HD7084P or Antennacraft HD-1850. (Which are some of the largest available all channel antennas.) An RCA TVPRAMP1R would be an appropriate choice for a preamplifier. Start with an aim point of about 339° (compass), and adjust from there. If WMGM is not received reliably without the loss of other signals you consider important, you may need to consider adding a second antenna dedicated to WMGM. A tuned combiner could be used to merge the antennas into a common down-lead, but your interest in the HDHR tuner would suggest that you terminate the two antennas in separate tuners and configure the software to use the ideal antenna for a given station.
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Old 29-Mar-2014, 6:22 AM   #3
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The Current Tv Channels that are being Transmitted and Received in the , USA , Canada , Mexico , are.

VHF low band channels 2 thru 6.

VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

UHF band channels 14 thru 51.

Your location has receivable Tv channels in All 3 Tv Bands.

The tvfool Channel List and Radar Report shows the , Real Channels that are Transmitted and Received, and the , (virt) virtual number.

The virtual number is Not a Real Channel , even if the virtual number is the same as the Real Channel.

Antennas are selected for reception of the Real Channels.

A All Channel Antenna is recommended for your reception location.

Some of the Tv Stations Are Weak Signal Strength at your reception location.

I Do Not recommend a Tv antenna in the attic , Yes you can start with a Tv antenna in the attic.

If reception situations happen in the attic that are not resolvable with antenna aim and location adjustments in the attic then move the Tv antenna to Above the Peak of the Roof in such a manner that reception is not , obstructed , impeded , blocked , by the roof and building in the directions of , North West , South South West , East South East.

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Install a , http://www.antennacraft.net.

HD1200 All Channel Antenna Above the Peak of the Roof.

Aim the HD1200 antenna at about 339 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna.

With the HD1200 antenna aimed at about 339 degree , the Strong Signal Strength , WMGM-Dt and W48DP-D , will be received through/at the back angles of the HD1200 antenna.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html.
Use the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html.
Use the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.
Measure around the chimney and use a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224) .

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at , http://www.ronard.com , or , http://www.amazon.com.

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Home Depot has 10 foot 6 inch , 1 and 3/8 inch diameter , TOP RAIL , chain link fence , PIPE , that makes good antenna mast/pipe , the price is low at about 10 dollars.

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Install a , http://www.antennacraft.net.

10G201 preamplifier.

The FM radio interference trap will be in the in/on position.

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Here is a 6 way splitter , Levition model 47690-6 .

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All parts of the 10G201 preamplifier , the power supply/power injector , and the preamplifier , must be connected before the input of the splitter , because the splitter is non power passing , so their is no back feeding of DC power from the preamp power supply out to the Tv locations.

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Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. .

http://www.antennacraft.net.

http://www.summitsource.com

http://www.amazon.com.

http://www.ronard.com.


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Here are some alternatives to HD HomeRun , etc. .

http://www.epvision.com.

And , http://www.channelmasterstore.com , has Receiver/Recorders.
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Old 29-Mar-2014, 1:31 PM   #4
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If I were in the same situation, I'd opt for an outdoor mounted antenna. The pay off would more channels received and greater reliability. There are a several stations broadcasting on Low-VHF frequencies (real CH-2 through CH-6), most notably, WPVI on real CH-6. An attic mounted antenna will be subject to more interference from electronic equipment in your home, and the roof construction will reduce the strength of desired signals. If your choice is to try from in the attic, use the largest antenna that will fit.

I'd suggest you mount outdoors, in the clear if possible using a Winegard HD7084P or Antennacraft HD-1850. (Which are some of the largest available all channel antennas.) An RCA TVPRAMP1R would be an appropriate choice for a preamplifier. Start with an aim point of about 339° (compass), and adjust from there. If WMGM is not received reliably without the loss of other signals you consider important, you may need to consider adding a second antenna dedicated to WMGM. A tuned combiner could be used to merge the antennas into a common down-lead, but your interest in the HDHR tuner would suggest that you terminate the two antennas in separate tuners and configure the software to use the ideal antenna for a given station.
First, thank you for responding and your detailed post.

I had posted to another site and they recommended an 8-Bay Bowtie HDTV Antenna, what would be the plusses and minuses compared to the HD7084P (which I've seen good things written about). I would guess the drawback with the bowtie would be limited hi-VHF range (affecting 6 and 12). A plus for it would be the easier attic installation.

I'll try in the attic first and test signal strength and quality with the HDHR Dual. If needed I'll relocate it to the roof (wife approval would be higher if it was in the attic, but if the roof is needed to pull in the stations she watches then so be it).

Thanks again,

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Old 29-Mar-2014, 6:42 PM   #5
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Just a generic observation... As a kid in the 1960's, a big antenna on the roof was a status symbol that indicated you had a nice TV and perhaps a 'HiFi' FM stereo...

How things change...
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Old 29-Mar-2014, 8:55 PM   #6
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A Tv antenna on the roof now , shows every one that your are not paying for pay cable and pay satellite.

And is now a Status Symbol.

Tv antennas are Handsome and Beautiful.

And with streaming Internet services such as and not limited to , Hulu+ and Netflix you will be paying A Lot Less per month.

The December 2013 , Consumer Reports , Page 42 , has a Practicle and Useful Article about Internet Streaming Reception Boxes and Streaming Services.


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Here is a Free Streaming Service.

http://www.hoopladigital.com.

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Some Digital Tv's have built in internet.

If your Tv etc. does not have built in internet.

Here are some and not all devices that will connect your computer internet to the Tv.

http://www.sewelldirect.com.

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Old 30-Mar-2014, 4:04 PM   #7
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If you have any type or kind of active cable service , cable tv service , cable internet service , cable phone service , or any other type or kind of coax cable delivered service.

The antenna and coaxes that are used for the antenna system must not be connected to the coax of the cable services.

Cable delivered services must be on a Separate Coax that is not connected to the antenna system.

Yes the coaxes that Were used for the cable services can be used for the antenna system.

However the cable delivered services must be on a Separate coax.
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Old 31-Mar-2014, 2:24 PM   #8
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I predict that any UHF only antenna mounted in your attic wil not get the ABC network.
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Old 31-Mar-2014, 4:20 PM   #9
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Just a generic observation... As a kid in the 1960's, a big antenna on the roof was a status symbol that indicated you had a nice TV and perhaps a 'HiFi' FM stereo...

How things change...
That's the image I'm trying to project.
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