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Old 11-Apr-2013, 2:28 AM   #1
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Thinking about OTA

Hey ya'll! Been awhile since I've posted anything. Well, the ex-girlfriend wants to install OTA at her house. I almost think it's a lost cause. Here's the TVFR. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...1dda8a9ebf7c39 I know Little Rock, AR is totally out of the question. I wish it wasn't though. Springfield, MO looks to be kind of tricky. She's a truck driver and she, as well as I, don't see the point in paying for service if she's not going to be there to watch it. She can possibly go up to about 45, maybe 50 ft high. I ran reports using different heights, and it didn't seem to make that big of a difference until about 200 ft. So, what to do? Thanks!
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Old 11-Apr-2013, 4:51 AM   #2
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This is a Tuff reception situation that calls for Tuff Measures.

The tvfool report for 45 feet antenna height.

For reception of.

KSPR-DT REAL UHF Digital channel 19 , virtual number (x) , ABC and CW.

KYTV REAL UHF Digital channel 44 , virtual number (3.1) NBC.

KOLR REAL VHF Digital channel 10 , virtual number (10.1) , CBS.

Install a Winegard HD7698P antenna aimed at the group of Tv stations.

Aim the HD7698P antenna at about 311 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

A Ultra Low Noise amplifier with high gain is required to get all of the possible signal for reliable reception.

Install a http://www.kitztech.com , KT-200-COAX TV Antenna Booster Remote Power-Coax Fed.
The remote power amplifier allows the flexibility of installing the amplifier outside or inside.

For one Tv connected use No splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

Buy the HFS splitter at , http://www.solidsignal.com , or , http://www.hollandelectronics.com.

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Here are places to buy antennas and etc. .

http://www.soldsignal.com.

http://www.amazon.com.

http://www.winegarddirect.com.

http://www.kitztech.com.

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The reception of the next 2 Tv stations is more Tuff.

This recommendation may not get reliable reception of both Tv stations at the same time.

I am doing my best get reception of the receivable Digital Tv stations channels with least amount of antennas and hassle.

For reception of.

K07XL-D REAL VHF Digital channel 07 , virtual number (07.1-2-3-4) , RTV (Retro Tv Network) , Antenna Tv , This Tv , MeTv.

KEMV REAL VHF Digital channel 13 , virtual number (6.1) PBS.

Install a Separate second antenna system.

Install a Antenna Craft Y5713 VHF High Band antenna , aimed at about 245 degree magnetic compass direction.

(((Aiming the Y5713 Vhf high band channels 7 thru 13 antenna at about 245 degree magnetic compass direction is a - in between - aim direction to receive K07XL and KEMV at the same time with one antenna.)))

-->As always , the starting antenna aim direction is the --> starting antenna aim direction.
The aim direction can be adjusted for best reception.
Most Digital Tv's have a signal strength meter and some Digital Tv's also have a signal quality meter.

Use a second amplifier that is the same as the first antenna system.

And use a HFS splitter that is the same as the first antenna system.

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This is the best I can come up with without using more then 2 antennas or using 1 HD7698P antenna and a antenna rotator.

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The HD7698P antenna system and the Y5713 antenna system are completely Separate antenna systems.

The 2 Separate antenna systems are not connected on to one coax.

The 2 Separate antenna systems have separate , antennas , separate amplifiers , separate splitters , separate coax all the way to the Tv/s location/s.

At each Tv location/s a Remote control A/B antenna switch is used to change antennas systems. http://www.mcmelectronics.com. #32-4425.

Remote control A/B antenna switching is Channel Surfing Friendly , Press the button on the hand held remote control , Change Antennas And Keep On Channel Surfing.

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Old 11-Apr-2013, 6:37 AM   #3
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Agreed, this one is rather challenging. I'm in the same 'boat' as teleview, all the other options I can think of just add expensive tuned combiners and more long antennas. (But they are good looking.)

@mdoverstreet, I'm curious, will 45' or 50' clear nearby trees?

It seems reasonable to do the 7698 to start with as telview has suggested. If it isn't able to provide reliable reception of the Springfield signals it will give you enough information to decide if separate UHF and VHF antennas would be worth considering. And it would not go to waste, there are a few other directions to point it if you did add a stack of 91XG & Y10713 aimed at Springfield.

I don't share much enthusiasm for rotators either, but on a second antenna and in a single TV home... It's an option I'd ponder.
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Old 11-Apr-2013, 8:34 AM   #4
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Thank you for your comments GUM.

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I am thinking that the Antennas Direct , C5 antenna might do better at reception of K07XL and KEMV.

Then the Y5713.

The C5 has a wider forward beam width and the ~~same antenna gain.

Try the C5 antenna.
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Old 11-Apr-2013, 11:11 PM   #5
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Thanks ya'll. I knew you could come up with something. I know on the TVFR it looked rather challenging. I just thought the TVFR on my first post a few years ago was challenging. I thought for sure I had ya'll stumped. Oh well. Maybe next time. Lol! It may be awhile before she decides to get the system put together. 45' should get it past the trees. I'm not at all interested in getting KEMV. PBS is nothing but a bunch of liberal garbage. How about KAIT? Should be pretty simple to get that one, right? Thanks!
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Old 11-Apr-2013, 11:54 PM   #6
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If you can avoid trees, KAIT should be pretty easy. If that's all you're going to go for, I'd suggest using an Antennacraft Y10713 or Winegard YA1713. The added gain and directivity would help make it more reliable yet.
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Old 12-Apr-2013, 12:52 AM   #7
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No, that's not all I'm after. I'm after anything and everything I can get except KEMV. Appreciate all the help!
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That sounds good to me. It'll be good to hear how it works out.
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