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22-Jun-2018, 8:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dagwood
This is all news to me, when is it supposed to happen?
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The FCC took away UHF channels 38 to 51 from TV broadcasters and gave them to the cellular companies. The TV stations had the choice of moving to a different UHF channel (14 to 36), a VHF-High channel (7 to 13), a VHF-Low channel (2-6), or going off the air. They did get paid to do it, but they weren't happy that the cellular companies had taken their channels.
The Rochester channels will change during the period of 6/22/2019 to 8/2/2019
Last edited by rabbit73; 22-Jun-2018 at 8:48 PM.
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22-Jun-2018, 10:19 PM
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dagwood
Not quite getting that last image. Where is Rochester and/or the transmitter? 
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The transmitter is at the center of the pattern:
Last edited by rabbit73; 22-Jun-2018 at 11:17 PM.
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22-Jun-2018, 10:22 PM
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#43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit73
The FCC took away UHF channels 38 to 51 from TV broadcasters and gave them to the cellular companies. The TV stations had the choice of moving to a different UHF channel (14 to 36), a VHF-High channel (7 to 13), a VHF-Low channel (2-6), or going off the air. They did get paid to do it, but they weren't happy that the cellular companies had taken their channels.
The Rochester channels will change during the period of 6/22/2019 to 8/2/2019
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Wow, no kidding. This is the first I've heard of it.
I do see that it is a year away, so that's probably why I've heard nothing on TV about it yet.
Will any of this make any of my channels better or worse?
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23-Jun-2018, 1:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rabbit73
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How do I do that?
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23-Jun-2018, 4:33 PM
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#46
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Hello there Rabbit sounds like someone is maybe turning off a light switch that is
Powering up the amp??funny thing just like that can happen to maybe his wife
Wonted him too go to bed.lol!!
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24-Jun-2018, 2:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dagwood
How do I do that? 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I assume you know how to send the coordinates to me in a PM (a forum Private Message) to me, so you must mean how to determine the coordinates of your antenna.
If you don't have a GPS, you can use the TVFool Interactive map browser.
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=90
Once you have found your home, you can move the teardrop indicator to the location of the antenna by drag-and-drop. As you move the teardrop, the coordinates below the map will follow.
Move the white fist to the base of the teardrop until the index finger points to the base of the teardrop.
Left click the mouse and hold it down.
Move the indicator to the antenna location and release the left click.
The coordinates of the antenna will be below the map; copy and paste them.
Last edited by rabbit73; 24-Jun-2018 at 3:19 AM.
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24-Jun-2018, 3:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit73
Correct me if I am wrong, but I assume you know how to send a PM (a forum Private Message) to me, so you must mean how to determine the coordinates of your antenna.
If you don't have a GPS, you can use the TVFool Interactive map browser.
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=90
Once you have found your home, you can move the teardrop indicator to the location of the antenna by drag-and-drop. As you move the teardrop, the coordinates below the map will follow.
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I just ran through it and now that I see it, I know I've done it before -- maybe last winter. At any rate, I will PM you the link.
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24-Jun-2018, 3:22 AM
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I edited the image, so there is a blank in your quote.
Thank you. I will work on it tomorrow.
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24-Jun-2018, 3:30 AM
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I do not see the coordinates in the PM, just a TVFool report.
The coordinates would look something like this:
42.759854, -77.443830
They would be below the map after the indicator is at the antenna location.
What you did was create a Radar plot using the button at the upper right corner of the map.
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24-Jun-2018, 4:33 PM
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Rabbit, I'm totally lost. I went to the link in post #47, used the alternate method there because I don't have a very high speed connection, and sent you the results.
Everything you've written after that leaves me clueless, including the rest of post 47 below the link.
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24-Jun-2018, 8:25 PM
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Locations on a map are given using longitude and latitude coordinates.
If you are not able to give me the coordinates for your antenna location, an address, or an X on a map showing where you are in a PM, I will not be able to do an accurate terrain profile. Sorry.
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27-Jun-2018, 7:15 PM
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Thank you for the additional information by PM. This profile shows that the WUHF and other Rochester signals have a hard time getting to your antenna because of the hill that blocks a direct signal path.
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27-Jun-2018, 11:38 PM
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Antnna&signal ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit73
Thank you for the additional information by PM. This profile shows that the WUHF and other Rochester signals have a hard time getting to your antenna because of the hill that blocks a direct signal path.

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Looks like It's up with the ANTENNA maybe 40ft
Put it into the tv Fool report and see what you
Wined up with and set the ANTENNA on a 45/90AGL/DgAGL?
For that one channel i have looked into the tv Fool have
Playing with it by antennas higth by adding ft and pled
With the AGO frum,0,,to a 45DG,AGL.,too,a90 DGAGL?
What a BIG!! Improvement like a 1000+% so know!!
RAIBBIT.what does AGL,stand for does it stand for?DG,AGL?
On the tv Fool report? And you should move the ANTENNA too the
Left about 3.1/2 ft over TOO the left look at the picture of the tree's over the roof and
Where the ANTENNA is sitting know it's pointing right into the tree.?look ??
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28-Jun-2018, 1:21 PM
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nascarken
Looks like It's up with the ANTENNA maybe 40ft
Put it into the tv Fool report and see what you
Wined up with and set the ANTENNA on a 45/90AGL/DgAGL?
For that one channel i have looked into the tv Fool have
Playing with it by antennas higth by adding ft and pled
With the AGO frum,0,,to a 45DG,AGL.,too,a90 DGAGL?
What a BIG!! Improvement like a 1000+% so know!!
RAIBBIT.what does AGL,stand for does it stand for?DG,AGL?
On the tv Fool report? And you should move the ANTENNA too the
Left about 3.1/2 ft over TOO the left look at the picture of the tree's over the roof and
Where the ANTENNA is sitting know it's pointing right into the tree.?look ??
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Thank goodness we have NASCARKEN to provide such insightfull
and knowledgeable content!
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29-Jun-2018, 6:07 PM
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AGL=Above Ground Level
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29-Jun-2018, 6:30 PM
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#57
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Agl???
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Originally Posted by Tower Guy
AGL=Above Ground Level
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Ok tower Gug!! AGL stands for Above ground level?
I think you are wrong becuse iT's after antennas higth of ft And then
ANTENNAs AGL of ANTENNA becuse on some ANTENNAs you can adjust the Agl
Frum 0,too a 35AGL,I know that the ANTENNA Direct 91xg,you can
Do that ? And their is an ANTENNA manufactures that sells stuff too
Put your antennas on a AGL.?
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29-Jun-2018, 11:34 PM
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#58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nascarken
RAIBBIT.what does AGL,stand for does it stand for?DG,AGL?
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This is for AGL:
This is for DG,AGL = Degrees Angle:
Last edited by rabbit73; 29-Jun-2018 at 11:36 PM.
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30-Jun-2018, 12:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit73
This is for AGL:
This is for DG,AGL = Degrees Angle:

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Ok thank you Ribbit for the good information
happy,4of July to you and your family.
And everyone else on tv fool form.
Last edited by Nascarken; 30-Jun-2018 at 12:26 PM.
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30-Jun-2018, 5:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nascarken
Ok tower Gug!! AGL stands for Above ground level?
I think you are wrong becuse?
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The FCC uses AGL to describe the height of the transmit antenna on a TV tower.
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