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Old 18-Feb-2016, 4:24 AM   #1
rlwatso1
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Help with reception - East Central Ohio

Hello all, I am trying to figure out if it would even be possible to get signal. The goal would be to get the big 4 networks (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox) if at all possible. I am in a valley with hills on the north and south side of me. Here is my TV Fool report

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...51347381cd45e8

We live in a 2 story home and am up for almost any solution that's reasonable.

Thanks for your time!!
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Old 18-Feb-2016, 9:18 AM   #2
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Ugly. I'd call a satellite company, based only on that plot and your description of being in a valley.
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Old 18-Feb-2016, 3:45 PM   #3
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Long time lurker here and this might be the most depressing tvfool report I have ever seen posted. You might as well be on the moon. You have my condolences.
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Old 19-Feb-2016, 2:01 AM   #4
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I figured as much... doesn't help that we only have Verizon LTE internet too so TV streaming is out of the question. We currently have DirecTV but would do anything to get away from that haha. I figured it would be a long shot but I didn't know what kind of extreme measures there were. Some of the farms around us have old TV antenna towers from back in the analog days but I am not sure if any of them even work anymore
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Old 24-Feb-2016, 5:12 PM   #5
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A few years ago I was able to pick up a couple of very weak 2 edge UHF signals that had a negative NM of 7 and 12 or so respectively. And I received them reliably. Used a Antennacraft HBU 55 antenna and Winegard 8275 pre amp.

Not sure that you can get such weak VHF signals but it may be possible to use a Deep Fringe antenna like the one mentioned or something like the Antennas Direct 91XG or possibly a good 8 bay like the DB8e from AD or Channel Master 4228 and get some of those UHF signals with a NM above minus 10.
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Old 24-Feb-2016, 6:50 PM   #6
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The goal would be to get the big 4 networks (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox) if at all possible.
WTRF would give you CBS and ABC
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.ph...&callsign=wtrf

WHIZ might give you NBC
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.ph...&callsign=WHIZ

I don't see any chance for Fox.

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We live in a 2 story home and am up for almost any solution that's reasonable.
Your tvfool report says 60 ft; you are going to need that height. Doing a report at 100 ft looks better, but that is probably not possible.

If you are willing to gamble there are two possible approaches.

One would be a Winegard HD76898P VHF-High/UHF combo antenna and a rotator for WTRF at 131 degrees magnetic and WHIZ at 226 degrees magnetic.

An alternate plan would be two antennas and no rotator. A Winegard HD7698P aimed at WTRF and an Antennas Direct DB8e with both panels aimed at WHIZ. The two antennas would be combined with a UVSJ UHF/VHF combiner.

You will need a preamp like the Channel Master 7777 which has a 30 dB gain but is easily overloaded, a more conservative CM 7778, or an Antennas Direct Juice.

There is a lot of terrain in the signal path from WHIZ, but maybe some signal can make it to your location.



You have a strong local FM station WTUZ that might interfere with the reception of WTRF, but the CM preamps have an internal FM filter. An FM filter can be added to the Juice if needed.
http://www.fmfool.com/modeling/tmp/e...4/Radar-FM.png

If the antenna is outside, the coax shield should be grounded with a grounding block that is connected to the house electrical system ground with 10 gauge copper wire for electrical safety and to reject interference. For further compliance with the electrical code (NEC), the mast should also be grounded in a similar manner to drain any buildup of static charge, but the system will not survive a direct strike.

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Old 3-Mar-2016, 5:52 AM   #7
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Thanks

Thank you all so much for the replies... i'm trying to weigh my options and see just how high I can realistically get the antenna. I appreciate the help!
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