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Old 7-Dec-2012, 3:53 AM   #1
Clause
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Looking for some antenna advice

Greetings all.

I've been lurking around the forums for a bit and finally decided to register to take advantage of the knowledgeable folks lurking about.

I don't watch a lot of television, but it's about time I install something better than this homegrown coat-hanger setup I threw together to get the local news Surprisingly it brings in the CKVR signal in clear HD, better than my brothers cable box.

Ideally I'd like to install an attic based solution, or a mount on the garage roof with all but northern exposure.. but if absolutely necessary I could try to convince the better half that a mast is necessary.

I've got digital OTA receivers here I'll be piping the signal to, and am interested in HD digital if at all possible.

Here is my base TV Fool report showing my coverage, I've also included 25 and 40 foot reports for completeness sake:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...cc494285e130ae

25 Foot Report
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...cc49b7cbee47ac

40 Foot Report
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...cc49fd61e955d5

From what I understand of that, I think I'll be lucky to get maybe 5 distinct channels. I don't see much of a difference when raising the antenna height but maybe I'm not reading that correctly.

From what I garnered from other posts with similar signal ratios to mine, I'll be needing a mid-long range antenna, and maybe a booster? The cable run would be less than 100ft, single drop with the potential of a split to another set pending reception in the future. That leads me to believe it would be something similar to the following:

Antennas Direct DB8 Multidirectional HD Antenna
DB4e Extended Range Antenna - This is UHF only I think?

Since my graph shows VHF-hi/lo I don't know if this will be satisfactory. My signals are high band VHF? If so I would need something like a HD7696P?

So my question to the experts is what do you think I'd require to get the best bang for my buck and bring in some reliable channels? Thanks in advance for anyone who is willing to share.

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Old 7-Dec-2012, 8:49 PM   #2
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You're correct, you'll need a large high gain antenna such as the Winegard HD769X series. The HD7698P would not be overkill.

I have gone to great lengths to avoid using a rotator but in you case a rotator may be the most practical option... depending on how many TVs need to be connected. There are other options but you've already mentioned "best bang for my buck" so I'll hold off describing more complex or expensive approaches for now.

An Antennas Direct CPA-19 preamp would be an appropriate choice for this installation.

A UHF only antenna would not support the VHF signals present.
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Old 20-Dec-2012, 7:37 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response GroundUrMast. I'll investigate your options!
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Old 21-Dec-2012, 12:41 AM   #4
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I recommend a 2 antenna setup.
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Antenna system #1.

Install a Antennas Direct - Clear Stream 2 Complete VHF/UHF antenna aimed at about 300 degree magnetic compass direction - a in between aim direction for the reception of , CKVR-DT VHF channel 10 CTV TWO , CIII-DT VHF channel 7 GTN , CHCH-DT UHF channel 23 IND. , CFTO-DT UHF channel 35 CTV ONE.

http://www.antennasdirect.com/store/...VHF-Combo.html.

Connect a Antennas Direct CPA-19 preamp to the CS2V antenna.

Remove the - Reflector Screen - from the CS2V antenna and the CS2V will receive at the front of the antenna and back of the antenna for the reception of , CKVR , CIII , CHCH , CFTO.
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For 1 Tv connected use no splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

Buy the HFS splitters at , http://www.solidsignal.com or http://www.holladelectronics.com.

Can also use a common simple 2 way splitter that also passes DC power through the splitter.

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Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.
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Antenna system #2.

Aim a Channel Master CM4228HD antenna at about 203 degree magnetic compass direction.

Connect a CPA-19 preamp to the CM4228HD antenna.

For reception of , CBLT-DT UHF channel 20 CBC , CBLFT-D UHF channel 25 French Tv , CICA-DT UHF channel 19 TVO ,
and possibly , CJMT-DT UHF channel 40 OMNI 2 , CITY-DT UHF channel 44 CITY , CFMT-DT UHF channel 47 OMNI 1.

The no splitter and splitter set up is the same type and kind of setup as antenna system #1.

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Antenna Systems 1 and 2 are Separate antenna systems and are Not connected together on to one coax.

The systems are Separate all the way to the location/s of the Tv/s and are connected to a Remote control A/B antenna coax switch at each location of Tv.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com , #32-4425.

Saveandreplay also has the same A/B switch.

A/B antenna switching is Channel Surfing Friendly , press the button on the hand held remote control , change antennas and Keep On Channel Surfing.

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Recommend install the antennas no less then 25 feet above ground and closer to 40 feet will be better.
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Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. , http://www.saveandreplay.com
, http://www.trentondistributors.com , http://www.amazon.ca , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com , http://www.channelmasterstore.com.
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As always , trees and tree leaves do a real fine job of reducing or blocking Digital Broadcast Tv reception and so do buildings and other obstructions including your own house.

It is best to install the antennas at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in the directions of reception.

At your location that is , north west , east , south west , west.

The Tv/s Must Channel Scan for the Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , sometimes named the 'Air Channels' or 'Antenna Channels' in the Tv setup menu because the Broadcast Tv transmissions travel through the air from the transmitting antenna to the receiving antenna.

DO NOT channel scan for cable tv channels.

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Old 23-Dec-2012, 8:14 AM   #5
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If you will like to receive All of the USA PBS channels and other channels here is a way to do it.

FTA = Free To Air Satellite Tv.

Here is a good place to start , http://www.ftalist.com.

http://www.saveandreplay.com , is one business that sells the receivers and small motorized dish.

Here is a web site that has more information.

http://www.global-cm.net

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