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24-Jan-2012, 7:12 PM
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Need help with antenna selection in Maine
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...67d9173dfa3cd2
Looking for an antenna
1. RCA ANT751R
2. CM2016 Channel Master
3. WINEGARD HD9095P
I was recommended a Winegard HD7696P but seems to big.
Last edited by GroundUrMast; 24-Jan-2012 at 8:31 PM.
Reason: Moved to Help w/ Reception Fourm
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24-Jan-2012, 8:42 PM
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At first glance, I'm inclined to say that none of the antennas you've listed are ideal based on the TV Fool Report you've provided. However, your TV Fool Report includes the following:
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WARNING: Address was only resolved to city level and might not be that close to your actual location. For more accurate results, try entering a specific address or coordinates.
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Our ability to understand your actual situation may be significantly affected as a result. I'm reluctant to suggest an antenna when your conditions may be significantly different than shown.
Please review the Guidelines when asking for help. There you'll find instructions on how best to produce an accurate TV Fool Report and suggestions of additional details to provide.
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24-Jan-2012, 11:06 PM
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Sorry I was looking to get channel 23 to watch the Superbowl, maybe a few more. I have an old satellite dish that is wired up outside and I was looking for an antenna to hook up to it. I plan on getting two antennas one for north east and another for south west. Antena web shows five chanels and two are NE and SW at about 30 to 40 miles. I really like the WINEGARD HD9095P but it has no vhf but I could add one later. I just don't want to make the wrong decision. Thanks.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...67d93ab15390b0
I entered my address, still the same warning result.
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25-Jan-2012, 12:05 AM
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Tv antennas and Tv reception
Go to the >>Start MAPS<< part of tvfool. You can zoom in and put the pointer on your house and make a radar map that way.
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25-Jan-2012, 1:01 AM
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Based on the TVFR in post #7:
A Winegard HD9095 or Antennas Direct 91XG aimed SW (about 240°) would give you Fox and possibly CW. (A smaller UHF antenna would be adequate for just Fox.)
An Antennacraft Y10713 aimed at 90° would give you CBS, ABC and PBS.
A Winegard YA6260 aimed at 357° would provide NBC
Combine them with a UVSJ & HLSJ then directly into an Antennas Direct CPA-19 preamp.
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Last edited by GroundUrMast; 25-Jan-2012 at 3:56 PM.
Reason: Udated to reflect TVFR in post #7
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25-Jan-2012, 4:58 AM
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I will provide a recommendation , but only with a actual location.
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25-Jan-2012, 1:42 PM
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I really like the Winegard HD9095 but I think that would be over kill for just one channel. All the channels are within a 35 mile radius, although I am in a low elevation. I have tried small bunny ears and got nothing.
I am now looking at Antennas Direct DB8 and the ClearStream4 and maybe even the db2. Thanks.
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25-Jan-2012, 3:57 PM
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25-Jan-2012, 4:05 PM
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What about a db8 or a clear stream 4? What would you recommend for a smaller UHF antenna? Thnaks
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25-Jan-2012, 4:58 PM
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What about a db8 or a clear stream 4? What would you recommend for a smaller UHF antenna? Thnaks
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Either would be plenty for reception of WPFO, real CH-23.
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25-Jan-2012, 5:52 PM
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After doing more research, I don't need fox, I need channel 2 (NBC) for the Superbowl. Does anyone make a Yagi antenna for vhf low 54 to 88 MHz (Channels 2–6)?
If I went with just the Winegard YA6260 for now (and add the Antennacraft Y10713 later) would I need an amp? (one tv)
What about a Winegard HD7000R?
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25-Jan-2012, 6:27 PM
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WLBZ real CH-2 is also carried on WGCI-LD real CH-4. Your chance of reliable reception of the stronger line of site signal from WGCI-LD argues for the YA6260 aimed at 357°.
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.ph...n=WGCI#station
With 50' or less coax, a single set should do fine with no amp.
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25-Jan-2012, 7:59 PM
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Thanks GroundUrMast. What do you think about an all in one antenna like the Winegard HD7015?
How to I have both of these you listed on the same pole? Thanks.
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25-Jan-2012, 10:22 PM
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It really depends on your goal(s). One deep fringe all channel antenna and a rotator would be a viable option.
The 7015 is not a deep fringe design, but there's a chance it might work as a fixed aim solution... If you aimed it at 91° you'd be taking a chance of marginal reception of real CH-2 which is on the edge of the noise threshold. (There's more noise in the low-VHF band than the high-VHF and UHFbands.) The 7015 has very modest gain on real CH-2 so you'd be giving your self a very thin fade margin. You'd also be marginal on real CH-7 and the two signals from the back, (10 & 23).
I'm not comfortable suggesting a single fixed aim antenna in your situation.
If I was building an antenna system my self, my preference (if we were neighbors) would be the three antenna system as I described in post #5. I have an aversion to rotators, particularly when there is more than one set connected. It appears to me that there are channels of interest coming from three different directions, each falling conveniently into UHF, high-VHF and low-VHF categories. (There is a fair chance you'll get real CH-10 via the back side of the Y10713 so you could have two PBS feeds.) This option would give you the ability to connect multiple sets and never have to deal with a rotator and the hassle of rescanning a tuner that needs to be rescanned each time the antenna is moved. (And, you can build it one antenna at a time if you need or want to.)
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26-Jan-2012, 5:29 AM
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Ok I researched this up one side and down the other. The bang for your buck is to install a Winegard HD5030 antenna with a Winegard AP8700 preamp aimed at about 91 degree a magnetic compass. For the reception of , ( WLBZ digital channel 2 NBC ) , ( WVII-DT digital channel 7 ABC with sub channels FOX and MyNetwork ) , ( WABI-TV digital channel 13 CBS and The CW ) , ( WMEB-DT digital channel 9 PBS ). . No need to receive WCBB-DT 10 because WMEB and WCBB are both the same MAINE Public Tv , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_P...asting_Network. Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html. Here are some Strong and Sturdy antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/909911.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html , http://www.ronard.com. Here are places to buy antennas and etc. , http://www.winegarddirect.com , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com
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26-Jan-2012, 6:34 AM
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... The bang for your buck is to install a Winegard HD5030 antenna with a Winegard AP8700 preamp aimed at about 91 degree a magnetic compass. For the reception of , ( WLBZ digital channel 2 NBC ) , ( WVII-DT digital channel 7 ABC with sub channels FOX and MyNetwork ) , ( WABI-TV digital channel 13 CBS and The CW ) , ( WMEB-DT digital channel 9 PBS ). . No need to receive WCBB-DT 10 because WMEB and WCBB are both the same MAINE Public Tv , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_P...asting_Network. .... |
If you have a newer TV, capable of HD resolutions, this single antenna option leaves you with a SD feed of FOX instead of the HD feed available from WPFO, real CH-23. But... if you go this route, you can always add a UHF antenna if you choose. In fact, the HD5030 and YA6260 have nearly identical low-VHF performance, so you would have the option to substitute the 5030 for the 6260 in the three antenna system if you decide to pursue that option at a later time. The cost difference is only $13.
As I've already explained, I think reception of WGCI, real CH-4 will be more reliable... WLBZ, real CH-2 is close to the edge but it could work if signal conditions are no worse than the prediction.
The bottom line is, if Super-Bowl reception is the urgent priority of the moment, Electron's suggestion is quite valid. You can turn the 5030 toward WGCI if you need to.
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26-Jan-2012, 5:02 PM
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Thanks again! I am going to go with the HD 5030 and the cpa-19 amp for now and add a uhf later on. I forgot to mention I have a metal roof with a 10/12 slope. Is there a certain minimum height that I need for the vhf channels?
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26-Jan-2012, 11:29 PM
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As an example , if a 3 foot tripod were mounted above the high point of the metal roof and a mast was 4 foot above that would be 7 feet , that would be OK. Or if a 5 foot tripod were mounted above and and the mast is 4 feet above , that would be Ok.
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29-Jan-2012, 9:31 PM
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The low band tv channels of 2 thru 6 are subject to more interference then the other tv channels of 7 thru 13 and 14 thru 69. Let us know about the reception of WLBZ channel 2. Are there any , drop outs or pixelation ??
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