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Old 26-Sep-2012, 7:37 PM   #1
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Question Pittsburg, Texas: KLTV - fine , Fox 51 - if it don't rain , CBS19 - 3-4 mins at night

So I put up a mini yagi ( http://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-Suburb...-Mast/10828410 ) and can only get KLTV 100% , KFXK (Fox 51) when there isn't rain and a clear day, and KETK comes in but only at 64-75 and usually isn't stable enough to watch.

I was tired of seeing locals in SD, and didn't want a 2 year contract with DirecTV (plus I found out DirecTV isn't broadcasting RFDTV and Cooking Channel in HD on it's core programming).

I was wondering if a Channel Master 2020 would help me pick up KETK , CBS19 (I had it come in one night for about 5 mins at 63%..) , FOX51 better, etc. ? And not be much more heavier so I don't have to put up guy wires ?

Also, do I really need to purchase a grounding block and a grounding rod if the pole that's been up for years didn't have it ? We were using an old circular antenna that rotated (but no longer did, motor went out? I guess..) that had been up for years. I couldn't get anything but KLTV on it , even trying to turn it myself is why I tried a replacement. (We're talking pre-digital antenna on that.)

There pole is 30 foot that we have up for the TV antenna from a guesstimate.

edit: The pole goes through a metal C looking deal they put up years ago to keep it attached to the house and from falling down. Also, I'm willing to accept the Shreveport locals (since I bet KLTV will come in anyway when pointed that way. KLTV is where we watch the news, so I'm not willing to lose that. Other than that, I just want the main locals (NBC, Fox, CBS, ABC since they are what carry NFL games and David Letterman).

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Old 26-Sep-2012, 8:19 PM   #2
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Please read http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=4 then post a link to your TV Fool report.

A generic report based on just Pittsburg, TX suggests that a larger antenna may be able to receive far more than you've seen thus far.

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Old 26-Sep-2012, 9:31 PM   #3
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Please read http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=4 then post a link to your TV Fool report.

A generic report based on just Pittsburg, TX suggests that a larger antenna may be able to receive far more than you've seen thus far.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...2df9a9549834fc

edit: Also, could trees be defeating the RCA ? We have a 50 foot pole with CB equipment hooked to it we no longer use really. It still wouldn't get over the trees I don't think.

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Old 27-Sep-2012, 1:11 AM   #4
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Antenna system number 2.

The following is the South group of Tv stations.

The South group of Digital Tv stations/channels are Weak to Very Weak of signal strength.

KLTV-DT REAL VHF channel 07 , virtual number (7.1-2-3) ABC and Bounce and Telemundo.

KFXK-DT REAL UHF channel 31 , virtual number (51.1-2) Fox and MyNetwork.

KCEB REAL UHF channel 51 , virtual number (54.1-2) Me-TV and Mundo fox.

KYTX-DT REAL UHF channel 18 , virtual number (19.1-2-3) CBS and CW and This Tv.

KETK-TV REAL UHF channel 22 , virtual number (56.1-2) NBC and Estrella Tv.

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Antenna system number 1.

The following is the East group of Tv stations.

The East group of Digital Tv stations/channels are Very Weak of signal strength.

KTAL-DT REAL UHF channel 15 , virtual number (6.1) NBC.

KTBS-DT REAL UHF channel 28 , virtual number (3.1-2-3) ABC and Local Weather and News.

KSLA-DT REAL UHF channel 17 , virtual number (12.1-2-3) CBS and This Tv and Bounce.

KMSS-DT REAL UHF channel 34 , virtual number (33.1) Fox.

KPJX-DT REAL UHF channel 21 , virtual number (21.1-2) CW and Me-Tv.

KSHV-DT REAL UHF channel 44 , virtual number (45.1) MyNetwork.

KLTS-TV REAL UHF channel 24 , virtual number (24.1-2-3) PBS.

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Antenna system number 1.

The East group of Digital Tv stations/channels has PBS , the South group does not.

--> I recommend reception of the East group. To start with. <--

Install a Antennas Direct DB4e antenna with a Antennas Direct CPA-19 preamp aimed at about 105 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

For 1 Tv connected use no splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

Buy the HFS splitters at , http://www.hollandelectronics.com , or , http://www.solidsignal.com

Here are some above the roof antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/909911.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html , http://www.ronard.com.

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at solidsignal by typing the word ronard in the solidsignal search box.

Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com

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As always , trees and tree leaves do a real fine job of reducing or blocking Tv reception and so do buildings and other obstructions.

It is best to install a antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in the directions of reception.

The Tv/s Must Channel Scan for the Broadcast Tv Channels , some times named the 'Air Channels' or 'Antenna Channels' in the Tv setup menu because the Tv transmissions travel through the air from the transmitting antenna to the receiving antenna.

DO NOT channel scan for cable tv channels.

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Old 27-Sep-2012, 3:38 AM   #6
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Antenna system number 2.

For reception of the South group of Digital Tv stations/channels.

Above the roof install a Winegard HD7698P antenna with a Antennas Direct CPA-19 preamp , aimed at about , 180 degree magnetic compass direction.

For 1 Tv connected use no splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.
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Antenna systems 1 and 2 are SEPARATE antenna systems and Are Not connected on to one coax.

The 2 Separate systems are separate All the way to Tv/s locations where the separate system coaxes are connected to a Remote control A/B antenna switch at each Tv location.
http://www.radioshack.com , #15-1968 , or , http://www.mcmelectronics.com , #32-4425.

Remote control A/B antenna switching is , Channel Surfing Friendly , press the button on the hand held remote control , change antennas and keep on channel surfing.

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Old 27-Sep-2012, 5:04 AM   #7
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The following is the South group of Tv stations.

The South group of Digital Tv stations/channels are Weak to Very Weak of signal strength.

KLTV-DT REAL VHF channel 07 , virtual number (7.1-2-3) ABC and Bounce and Telemundo.

KFXK-DT REAL UHF channel 31 , virtual number (51.1-2) Fox and MyNetwork.

KCEB REAL UHF channel 51 , virtual number (54.1-2) Me-TV and Mundo fox.

KYTX-DT REAL UHF channel 18 , virtual number (19.1-2-3) CBS and CW and This Tv.

KETK-TV REAL UHF channel 22 , virtual number (56.1-2) NBC and Estrella Tv.

_________________________________________________________________


The following is the East group of Tv stations.

The East group of Digital Tv stations/channels are Very Weak of signal strength.

KTAL-DT REAL UHF channel 15 , virtual number (6.1) NBC.

KTBS-DT REAL UHF channel 28 , virtual number (3.1-2-3) ABC and Local Weather and News.

KSLA-DT REAL UHF channel 17 , virtual number (12.1-2-3) CBS and This Tv and Bounce.

KMSS-DT REAL UHF channel 34 , virtual number (33.1) Fox.

KPJX-DT REAL UHF channel 21 , virtual number (21.1-2) CW and Me-Tv.

KSHV-DT REAL UHF channel 44 , virtual number (45.1) MyNetwork.

KLTS-TV REAL UHF channel 24 , virtual number (24.1-2-3) PBS.

________________________________________________________

Antenna system number 1.

The East group of Digital Tv stations/channels has PBS , the South group does not.

I recommend reception of the East group. To start with.

Install a Antennas Direct DB4e antenna with a Antennas Direct CPA-19 preamp aimed at about 105 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

For 1 Tv connected use no splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

Buy the HFS splitters at , http://www.hollandelectronics.com , or , http://www.solidsignal.com

Here are some above the roof antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/909911.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html , http://www.ronard.com.

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at solidsignal by typing the word ronard in the solidsignal search box.

Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by teleview View Post
As always , trees and tree leaves do a real fine job of reducing or blocking Tv reception and so do buildings and other obstructions.

It is best to install a antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in the directions of reception.

The Tv/s Must Channel Scan for the Broadcast Tv Channels , some times named the 'Air Channels' or 'Antenna Channels' in the Tv setup menu because the Tv transmissions travel through the air from the transmitting antenna to the receiving antenna.

DO NOT channel scan for cable tv channels.
Quote:
Originally Posted by teleview View Post
Antenna system number 2.

For reception of the South group of Digital Tv stations/channels.

Above the roof install a Winegard HD7698P antenna with a Antennas Direct preamp aimed at about , 180 degree magnetic compass direction.

For 1 Tv connected use no splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.
_______________________________

Antenna systems 1 and 2 are SEPARATE antenna systems and Are Not connected on to one coax.

The 2 Separate systems are separate All the way to Tv/s locations where the separate system coaxes are connected to a Remote control A/B antenna switch at each Tv location.
http://www.radioshack.com , #15-1968 , or , http://www.mcmelectronics.com , #32-4425.

Remote control A/B antenna switching is , Channel Surfing Friendly , press the button on the hand held remote control , change antennas and keep on channel surfing.
So y'all are recommending a Winegard HD 7698P over the Channel Master 2020 ? Why ? It's only rated 10 more miles (70) than the Channel Master 2020 , which is far less (Around 40 dollars at some places).

Also, the VIP 722 scans the locals for us. I would be interested in picking up only one set (Seeing as they are all affiliations and would carry everything the same besides local news). However, KLTV is where we watch the news at. Other than that, I don't care which set of locals. I think KLTV would come in fine if I pointed the antenna towards the Shrevport (East) locals, assuming that the Winegard or Channel Master is like the RCA one I still picked up KLTV pointing towards the East at about 85 signal strength, and usually 100% towards the south.
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