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Old 13-Aug-2015, 7:35 PM   #8
rabbit73
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Ah, good. My suspicions were correct. I made my posts long because I thought you wanted to know the "why" behind an idea.

I suggest you purchase a variable attenuator and a few fixed attenuators. Experiment with them and then replace the variable and fixed with equivalent fixed if they help. They are not very expensive and you might learn something useful.

The link in my signature is about using an attenuator to test TV signals in the UK. They use the term DTT for what we call OTA.

I use a variable attenuator to test the sensitivity of tuners. I connect the antenna to the attenuator and then to a splitter to feed two TVs. I increase the attenuation to see which TV drops out at the "Digital Cliff" last; it's the winner. OTA signals are constantly changing in strength, so it doesn't work to remove the coax from one TV and connect it to the other. See attachment 1 for my test setup.



variable attenuator:
https://www.antennasdirect.com/store...ttenuator.html

fixed attenuators:
http://www.3starinc.com/drop_in-line_attenuator.html
http://home-automation.smarthome.com...=&w=attenuator
http://mjsales.net/collections/atten...ant=1083705673
Attenuation values 1, 3, 6, 8, 10, 12, 16, 20dB (FAM)
click on 1 dB for other values; the up and down arrows are faint

Quote:
The idea that those weak stations may work better because of less overload from strong stations makes me want to attempt this at my house.
If the technique doesn't give improvement when increasing attenuation because you run out of weak signal, it means that the Dynamic Range is too great for the attenuator technique.

FM filters:
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...804247%2Cd.cGU
https://www.antennasdirect.com/store...on_filter.html
or
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=zhlsj
http://www.atvresearch.com/hlsjvhfba...-combiner.aspx
http://www.nsccom.com/hlsj.aspx

Attachment 2: MCM FM filter curve
Attachment 3: Antennas Direct FM filter curve vs Radio Shack
Attachment 4: HLSJ used as an FM filter
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Test Setup.jpg (176.4 KB, 1314 views)
File Type: gif MCM%20FM%20Trap%20Attenuation.gif (15.5 KB, 1411 views)
File Type: jpg ADvsRSFMfilter.JPG (135.6 KB, 1361 views)
File Type: gif ADTechHLSJs3.GIF (22.5 KB, 1311 views)
File Type: jpg NoiseMargin.jpg (60.1 KB, 7817 views)
File Type: jpg AnalogVSDigital2 (2).jpg (108.6 KB, 1415 views)
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