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thanks..to summarize your post
i can "possibly" get 3 of the channels with the uhf db8e
and you think the Y10713 is strong enough (using only the theory that it does NOT cost a lot compared to other long range antennas)
i have looked at other antennas in neighborhood and they all appear to bigger versions of theY10713 looks like a "winegard" monster
about to search this forum for info on preamp's
i just like to research a lot before i invest
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