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Old 16-Oct-2013, 6:44 AM   #3
StephanieS
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Hello PJ_WI,

Those are some difficult conditions with 3 out of your 4 strongest signals being in different directions. Your current antenna is a warrior though. Been airborne awhile judging by the conditions of the elements.

Further, your current antenna appears to be VHF only. Which explains your challenge in receiving real channel 32 on UHF. A set up that'd use your existing mounting and would provide a test would be to purchase a Winegard HD8200U coupled to a RCA TVPRAMP1R pre-amp and aim it at 289 magnetic. You may get lucky and see RF 17 and 19, at very least it'll provide you knowledge that you have to go to the extreme level to pick up those signals which I elaborate on in the next paragraph.

Now the bad news and I hate to be the bearer of, but your signals on real channels 17 and 19 at 289 magnetic are the stuff of extremes. It is a positive you receive real channel 8. However, the foliage path blockage at 289 is something you have to get above especially for UHF signals, then there is no guarantee you will get RF 17 and 19. In certain cases single digit negative db signal strengths can be received, but getting into double negative digits is, as I mentioned, is the stuff of extremes. You can try, for example two Antennas Direct 91xgs co-phased for UHF coverage then a Antennacraft Y10713 for VHF coverage mounted three to four feet below the 91xgs atop a 100' tower to overcome immediate path blockages. However, that is a set up that'll run you a hefty bill of a several thousand dollars out the gate and that still may not reliably get the channels on 17 and 19. This is the kind of set up it'll take to pull in RF 17 and 19, presuming it's even possible.

Your situation actually reminds of me Richmond, Indiana. Many 50, 75 and even 100' towers snuggled right up against houses in efforts to receive Indianapolis TV, which in most of that city the Indy signals are down at low single digit db strengths above zero. A better situation than you have with the Duluth-Superior signals.

Why don't you for research purposes rerun your plot for your address at 100', 250' and 500' then share that with us. That will give some idea as to the level of edges and at what height the signals improve, if at all.

Last edited by StephanieS; 16-Oct-2013 at 7:44 AM. Reason: clarification
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