Thx for the input
What I found (didnt realize before) this morning was I had the antenna cable going through an input splitter for antenna, hdmi transmitter, dvr, dvd,,wireless video controller switch. When I bypassed this with the antenna cable and went direct, the auto program on my samsung went from 27 channels to 41

Great result including channel 9 I was about to add an old hd tuner that had a signal strength meter in it when I noticed, Since everything else uses a different input on the hdtv than coax There is no need for the ant coax to go through the switch Thx have a great sunday !!!