Ok here is the Test Situtation for the middle of nowhere camp site. Go to this site that I have put on the tvfool web site.
http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=233 . . Buy one of the Tv antennas and loooooooong RG-6 coax cable. This Is A Test. You are Testing to receive UHF 48 and UHF 51. Drive your car or pickup out in to the open area and put the antenna on top of the vehicle. . At the >>StartMAPS<< part of tvfool you can put different antenna heights in the antenna height box. . This is for an antenna that is in the the clear , not in the trees. . This Is A Test , this is not the final answer for all time , This Is A Test. . 0 NM(dB) is the reference point for reliable digital tv reception the more positive the number the better. . My informational postings are loaded with easy to understand information , and it is Ok to read them. . The middle of nowhere camp site is not to close to any thing , Get One of the antennas as a TEST. . This Is A Test. . If you have a 12 volt , digital tv then you can use a much shorter RG-6 cable with the vehicle out in the open area.