Televes DATBoss MIX LR vs Stacked Winegard 9095 + Antennacraft Y10-7-13 + AP-8275
Televes DATBoss MIX LR vs Stacked Winegard 9095 + Antennacraft Y10-7-13 + Winegard AP-8275 Preamp
The DATBoss comes with an integrated preamplifier which dynamically adjusts the over all gain to appropriate levels in order to avoid overloading. Its maximum VHF gain is 28dB And maximum UHF gains is 27 dB. The Winegard AP-8275 UHF 29dB VHF 28dB Both my local and fringe transmitters will be used in the testing. Local transmitters Are at 60 degrees and range from 4.9 and 6.9 miles out. One note. RF14 is a side lobe measurement. It is actually coming in from around 14 degrees in Virginia. Fringe transmitters will be shot at 260 degrees and are 100-120 miles out. The local topography is steep with intervening mountain ranges. All the transmitters are 1 and 2 edge. The Spectrometer I will be using is a Televes H30D3 A Winegard LS-275C splitter is being used. Testing was done on 2 different days. Fringe transmitters were tested on day 1 Day 1 was Inclement, overcast, rainy and had thunderstorms. Local transmitters were tested on day 2. Day 2 was partly cloudy and with nice conditions. A couple of pictures of the antennas in play and the lay of the land of my transmitters. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...08&oe=5F6462E7 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1e&oe=5F6357A8 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ec&oe=5F61B674 Some topographic Profiles to give you a sense of the challenges. RF9 Local https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...38&oe=5F6442CA RF28 Local https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...40&oe=5F64AA60 RF26 Fringe https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a9&oe=5F6335D1 The next images are my local traces over several hours time. You will see white gaps. That is where I switched out antennas. Alternating from left to right on each is DAT-9095-DAT-9095 RF9 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...32&oe=5F621D85 RF14 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0b&oe=5F64074E RF16 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a0&oe=5F62C5D1 RF28 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f9&oe=5F64013A |
RF35
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...94&oe=5F6221BB Transmitter list and reading with the 9095 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d8&oe=5F64D23B DAT https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e3&oe=5F63F843 The following data is from my fringe transmitters at 260 degrees. Conditions were not optimum. But the results were pretty good. Traces over time. Just to Note RF19 (293 degrees) and 24 (269 degrees) 22 and 53 miles out respectively The sequence for the traces is 9095-DAT-9095-DAT. RF7 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a0&oe=5F61EE07 RF10 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...56&oe=5F62CFD9 RF15 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...74&oe=5F629DFF RF18 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...75&oe=5F616FD9 RF19 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b3&oe=5F64D3AD RF24 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d5&oe=5F64ABBF RF26 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...86&oe=5F635623 |
RF29
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8f&oe=5F63C841 RF31 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...df&oe=5F643122 RF34 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...97&oe=5F638FEF RF36 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c7&oe=5F6167D2 The Following are the readings from the D3. Data set I https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...fa&oe=5F625E80 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...db&oe=5F643712 Data set II https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...79&oe=5F652821 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1c&oe=5F625EB5 Data Set III https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...04&oe=5F632ABD https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...cb&oe=5F62F27B |
Transmitter list after Data set III.
9095 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3c&oe=5F61931C DAT https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2c&oe=5F63D082 Conclusion. After looking over all of the results. There is no question that under my particular conditions, in mountainous terrain, the DATBoss LR Mix holds it own against the venerable Winegard 9095, Antennacraft Y10-7-13 and the Winegard AP-8275 preamp. This becomes more notable when you take into context of the Televes design being far more compact. Now will the Televes DATBoss MIX LR be a solution for all occasions? There is always a caveat We must always remember that every individuals situation is different both regionally and geographically. Also this particular antenna is not VHF LO capable. Certain circumstances may dictate a different choice in equipment. However. This particular model is a contender for choice in circumstances that allow for it. |
Lots of pretty colors and graphs! Perhaps you should spend
less time with graphs and colors and more time telling us your CONNECTION TO TELEVES!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I had some bets that would be one of your next posts. LOL. So very predictable. Thanks for playing. :D:D |
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Look what Calveras has on his tower. https://www.avsforum.com/cdn-cgi/ima...1-jpg.3028937/ |
How would anyone trust anything you say????
How much is Televes paying you to "compare" their products??? Your supposed "tests" and "comparisons" are laughable, just like you! |
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How much is Winegard and Channel Master paying you to troll my threads? Well unfortunately for you. Your are not posting anything of substance that the audience would have to waste any mental energy on in considering what if anything you say is trustworthy or not. :) |
Perhaps you've heard of a conflict of interest or impartiality?????
I have absolutely no connection to any antenna or electronic distributor or manufacturer. Simply, I install television/radio antennas and have done so for many years. Since you have not declared your independence from Televes, we can only assume your "comparisons" and reviews are skewed to make your employer, Televes, look good. I do have a DAT Boss Mix LR ordered and will judge for myself how it performs, how it is designed and engineered and how durable it might be. I hate buying chinese crap and hope I'm pleasantly surprised. In closing, Is your name, "SEV" short for several cards short of a full deck???? |
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If you are an installer you have an affiliation with every manufacture you use. Especially if you are purchasing direct. Generally speaking if you are a DBA, S or C corp you will have an account with either the manufacture directly or one of their distributors. Assuming you are not a distributor or wholesaler yourself. Of course if you are an installer that purchases his products from Walmart, Menards or Lowes for cash that might be a different matter entirely. So when I start doing shootouts involving Winegard vs CM vs AD vs anybody else. And I am using Kitztech, Winegard, CM, AD preamps along with Televes. Who am I going to be the lucky employee of the month for? Seems to me you are only one embarrassing yourself here by making personal attacks and unsubstantiated accusations. As you are a businessman. Supposedly. :rolleyes: It is quite unprofessional and telegraphs a certain impression about your ethics or possible lack there of. PS. Since you asked so nicely. I have no affiliation contractually or employment wise with any telecommunications company at this point in time. |
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