Moving to AZ - rambler
 

Hi, I'm moving from WA to AZ. I tried to setup an antenna in WA but had some big trees blocking LOS and the channels were too far away, so we could not go the antenna route. Now that we're moving to AZ, it looks like the channels are about 25 miles away. The house we are buying is a rambler and we're surrounded by other ramblers. What antenna and placement would you guys recommend based on the tool results. Keep in mind that we have an HOA, so having a huge outdoor antenna is not an option. Thanks!
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...9038d1dd014e3a

Hello there have you ever looked into a RV,outdoor tv antennas like the hi&low,Vhf,uhf,king jack.
It is the size of a large dinner plate with a built-in amp of 32,dbg,
With a single finder ,check it out,and put it into your tv Fool report and see what you
Get!!be for you buy it or enny,antenna for that matter.good luck and be safe and look out for power lines when installing an outdoor tv antenna.

Consider an ANT751. It receives all the channels that you have in AZ.

The king Jack will kik IT'S but, all day long tower guy.
KNOW my tower is 150ft hi and I recei ving of 1500miles away
With my stacked side by side antennas Direct,91xg,and my hi band
Vhf,stagger stacked,a long with my low band vhf too tv DX,
And ham Radio Dx is so much fun with an inverted v antenna,CQ CQ CQ DX!!lol.

Greetings,
I install antennas in the Prescott, AZ and have done so in the Phoenix area as well. A very good option would be the Winegard 7694p since it covers all the frequencies used in Phoenix. It is compact, durable and powerful as well.
The ANT 751 is also a good choice but a bit less powerful.
Be sure to ground your antenna system for lightening
protection and better reception.
Keep the antenna away from trees and power lines!

And if
 

And if tightening hit's it no ground and I don't care if you use
1ott to 10 gage the ANTENNA and your tv are dust in the wind
Lol good luck and boycott cable company and dish network Corp
Thanks for going with a Winegrud don't forget about the Winegrud
8200u lol I am in Massachusetts with a tower of 150ft and receive
channels 1500miles away IT'S cool to dx and get ATSC 03 at the
test broadcasting station come's in at night time gone at 9:00AM
along with my ham radio station and the inverted v antenna CQ CQ CQ
DX lol good luck!!

Very impressive; can you show us a photo of your tower?

The HOA doesn't have a legal right to stop you. There is a size limitation on dish antennas, but not on TV antennas. Fortunately, you don't need a huge antenna.

https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-r...n-devices-rule

Well it's all confidential and the best ANTENNA set up
 

Sorry Rabbit I wish I could share a picture of it but it's
Confidential information about everything I have put together
But it consists of ANTENNAs you can buy hi vhf,tv antennas
That are staggered stacked with low band vhf,tv antennas stagger stacked
And at the top of the 150ft tower is stacked side by side antennas Direct
91xg,one feed line per stacked antenna sistom,and no insert loss fixted right
Too all boards used RG8u,dbg loss per 100ft is low! And don't forget about
My inverted v antenna for my ham radio station CQ CQ CQ DX tv Fool form
Good luck too everyone who is putting up your outdoor tv antenna good luck and be safe and look out for power lines when installing an outdoor tv antenna.

Yes Ribbit I did it kind of like that yes he is good what does that mean?
This ANTENNAs owner,all so a ham.he is all so getting low!!vhf.Too
Look at the feed line and how long are they?channel,2?

Yes ribbit but have too get deeper in to the store some where he does
Say,S. frum the T to the ANTENNA's and look at the hi band vhf,tv,Antennas
Look look at how they were run,and the lengths of them feed line low
Vhf? Channel,2 how long is the ANTENNA radial for Channel 2?3&4?
And if you were too see my settup it would blow you'r mind on the pole on
Right side of my tower is my hi stagger stacked vhf,and on the right side is my
Stagger stacked low band VHF! That is what he is missing on the left side lol.

It looks like I will not be able to see your setup because you don't want to show me a picture of it.

This is off-topic for the original poster, alavochin.

Perhaps you are with the CIA or an undercover Chinese or Russian spy!!!!!!

I also have the wife HOA factor, who says no antenna outside and doesn't care about what the FCC says ;)

You guys think I can get away with an antenna mounted in the attic?

I do. Your weakest of the main networks is NBC with a noise margin of 55 dB. However, watch out for foil backed insulation that could block the signal.

Does your new house have a hip roof or gable ends? If gable ends, which way do they face? If gable ends, is the insulation foil backed on the roof but not the wall? If you have foil backed insulation on both gable walls and roof decking can you remove the foil for several feet in front of the best location for your antenna?

Aiming through gable ends is preferred here in the Northeast where snow can accumulate on the roof. I don’t have experience with Arizona roofs.

No spy
 

True USA and the cost of my toys?
Or should I say hobby and the man
With the most toys before you die wins
CQ CQ CQ DX cents the 1950 till
Know fcc still playing with the MH Z
ATSC,LG,is ATSC,certified 100%
And backed by the Fcc,for
Quite some time now!!!

Ah, yes; we have encountered that before. We call it the WAF (Wife Acceptance/Approval Factor). It's a result of the nesting instinct for the survival of the human race. The home is the "nest," so she gets to say what is right for the home, even in the "Man Cave."

The physical laws say the antenna must be located where the signals exist; the wife says the antenna must be located where it looks "nice."

"The King lives in the Castle at the discretion of the Queen."

I'm lucky. I have a wife who not only tolerates my antenna experiments, but encourages them because she wanted a battery operated TV for use during power failures. She even gave me a signal level meter as a present to measure TV signals.

Fortunately, your signals are quite strong and in the same direction, so I agree with Tower Guy; an attic antenna has a good chance of working if there are no metal object in front of it.

These are your signals:

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...1&d=1531075283

My signals are very similar:

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...2&d=1531075326

I am able to receive all major networks with an indoor antenna on the ground floor with trees and buildings in the signal path.

I am using this antenna:

https://i.imgur.com/FqoC8mt.jpg

I lent it to a friend, but she wasn't able to get any signals during a channel scan with the antenna indoors because her house has aluminum siding.

I also tested a more sturdy version suitable for outdoors with similar results:

https://i.imgur.com/RNbPN5b.jpg

Both require assembly.

When I was through testing the GE 29884, my wife said: "Don't put it away, I like the curve of the reflector."

https://i.imgur.com/q17KPcL.jpg

My antenna is in the corner of the bedroom, which is the second-best location; the best location was, of course, in the middle of the room in a high traffic area. There is usually a chair in front of it to hide the orange Home Depot paint bucket, which is filled with old magazines as weights. The bucket is sitting on a 3/4" plywood base that has leveling-screw feet to make the mast vertical because the concrete slab under the carpet isn't level.

https://i.imgur.com/H2r9J95.jpg

I also suggest you try the RCA ANT751 in the attic at several different locations. Wear gloves when unfolding the elements; some are sharp and covered with oil. If the signals are too weak, add the RCA TVPRAMP1R preamp, which is what I use with my indoor antenna, but my strongest signals are OK without it. Buy the preamp from Walmart, not Amazon; Amazon sometimes sends out Warehouse Specials that are returns that have a DOA power supply because they haven't been checked out.

If the RCA ANT751 doesn't have enough gain for the attic location, upgrade to the Winegard HD7694P antenna.

Wifey said that the signals
 

SIGNAL. Won't go through roof wood or building materials
Wifey said you should probably put it on the outside of the house on
The gable end should work well lol and camuflosh the ANTENNA!!lol

King Jack is a better looking antenna than that one and will kik it's but.
Lol and you don't have to worry about WHERE to point it wifey said
And when bad weather conditions come you will lose your receive
Stop playing games and do it right the first time before football is
On the tv air waves,good luck have a good day!!
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There are areas in East Mesa near Falcon Field that TV Fool indicates
are line of sight that are not. In fact, I've gotten better signals
from Tucson than some of the Phoenix stations in Ftn Hills and East
Mesa. I doubt the signals in your area are as strong as your report
suggests. An attic antenna with a tile roof is always a disaster. Even
asphalt roofs degrade the signal enough to create problems. Perhaps
your wife would like to view the tv using an attic antenna and you
can watch the tv using an outdoor antenna.

Based on his TVFool report, it looks like he is about 5 miles ESE of Falcon Field. He entered AL for his TVFool report instead of AZ, but Google maps figured it out from the zip code, I think.

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...3&d=1531091137

I remember a case where the wife objected to an outside antenna. The husband set up two temporary antennas, one indoors and one on the roof.

He had the wife and two children sit down and vote for which antenna gave the best reception. The children voted for the outdoor antenna for what they wanted to watch; the outdoor antenna won.

Some wives find the design of the Antennas Direct C2V acceptable.

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...4&d=1531096512

Lol wifey does not like football
Just sop on ABC.lol
Do you have an RV dealler
Near by if you do stop in
And ask them about king jack
With its SIGNAL finder I bet
If you ask them too give you
A demonstrations of it and IT'S like ten ft off the ground
I bet the king jack down the road get's everything you are
Looking for in channels too RECEIVE and no pointing it left
Or right and you think it's pointing right at the broadcasting tower.
You just sit down and your channel disappears.lol dagnabit.lol
But really good luck with your antenna but just check out a king
Jack some time,ps they say a receive of 70miles 32dbg.

C2v?
 

For the price of that antenna and no amp
I still say king Jack IT'S hi&low band VHF/UHF 32 dbg with a billtin SIGNAL
Finder up to 70miles cost $80 to $95dollars free shipping
And it's is so much better looking then the C2v,
And will out perform and out last it I have been
Looking at one of the C2V that someone put on
There house 2years ago and IT'S not looking
Too good,lol in Springfield Massachusetts
Sorry Ribbit too tock bad about antennas Direct
But it is true.but they do make one he'll of ANTENNA
And that is the 91xg that are At the top of my 150ft tower!!
With my 1500miles of RECEIVE North Carolina and South Carolina
And so on and wifey says it's cool to see OTHER state's news&
Tv broadcasting channel's far away!!

Thanks everyone for the replies. You are correct, I'm in AZ, just east of Falcon Field. If I did the King Jack antenna, is it still fine to mount it in the attic? Basically, whatever antenna I get, I want to mount it in the attic. What do you think is the best for that?

Thanks for the reply. See attached picture of the house. I pointed the arrow to the direction that the signal is coming from. There really isn't a gable vent pointing that direction and I'm not sure what type of material was used for insulation. We close on the house in August, but it's exciting to live in a place that actually has TV reception that doesn't require a 50 ft pole.
http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...1&d=1531237591

I seriously hope you can receive satisfactory reception from your attic.
Unlike most other areas, in Arizona many homes have tile roofs. Those
tiles are made of concrete. Concrete blocks radio and television signals
as well as other signals. Most stucco homes have concrete and a chickenwire
sublayer for strength. Both of those also block signals from entering
the home. I've used the GE 29884 several times with good results.
It might be used in your attic but if it doesn't work well there, it is small
enough to be hidden from view from the front of your home. One small
note: The GE 29884 needs to be adjusted not only side to side but up
and down as well. A few degrees tilt up or down can make all the difference
with that antenna. Hope this helps.
Joe in Prescott, AZ

The King Jack antenna is a poor choice for the attic. It is designed to mount on the roof of an RV and operated from inside below the roof. Also, its amplifier and your tuner would be overloaded by your strong signals.

I can see why you want an attic antenna at the Mountain Bridge Community. Yet, with stucco walls and concrete roof tiles, an attic antenna is iffy.

If an attic antenna doesn’t work, I’d install a J pole on the rear gable end a few ft left or right from the ridge. I’d mount an ANT 751 1 ft higher than the ridge. This combination would be nearly invisible from the street and perfect for reception.

Over loads won t happen I bet you can tack the king Jack
And put it on top of the tv seat like a seat of Rabbit ears.
He'll I will tell you what if it doesn't work I will buy it frum
You for the same price you paded for it +shipping cost
Just too proven my point.but go to an RV place down
The road like I suggested be for and you can adjust the
Amp's power and besides in side the house I don't think you will
Have an over load problem!!!

I finally moved into the house and started doing some testing. I purchased this simple small antenna just to see if I can pick up any channels: https://www.amazon.com/Newest-Amplif...dp/B07B1VKXJD/

I actually picked up 48 channels after doing a scan with my TV. I put the antenna by a window, which is facing opposite direction of where the TV stations are. Most of the channels were SD. Either it was able to go all the way through the house and pick up the channels or it picked it up from the window which isnt facing the stations.

See picture with red X where I placed the antenna.