No preamp, due to me only having one tv hooked up. I estimate that I have about 130' of RG-6. (it is the exact same cable that was used with my DirectV set up. It would be a few feet between the antenna and the long cable run, joined by a barrel connector. Next run would be aproximatly 91 feet, then barrel connector for another 25 feet, where it runs into the house, so there would be another barrel connector, then the remainder to the tv. (all measurments are approximate).

Channels I'm pulling:
KHAS-DT 5.1
KHAS-D2 5.2
KLKN-TV 8.1
KLKN-LWN 8.2
KHGI-TV 13.1
KFXL-TV 13.2
NET HD 29.1
NET 2 29.2
NET 3 29.3

I am not at my TV any more, but it seemed that while the signal wasn't AWESOME, the picture seemed solid. However, I only had it on for a few minutes while I was scanning. I will address that specific channel again for you and post back here about it.

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These sort of problems are why I recommend an all channel antenna and a rotor. Aim to all UHF and VHF channels from your easy chair.

130' of RG-6 (roughly 7 dB of loss in the UHF band) and the weak signal from real channel 19, KTVG call for a preamp.

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So that leaves KOLN-DT channel 10 , CBS and MyNetwork. at 91 degree magnetic compass. Signal strength 28.7 NM (dB) , plenty strong.


And KGIN-DT channel 11 , CBS and MyNetwork. at 241 degree magnetic compass. Signal Strength 12.7 NM(dB) , weak but receivable.

The C5 does a fairly good job of receiving in all directions.

Best reception at the front and good reception at back of the antenna and less at the sides of the C5 antenna.


Turn the C5 antenna to the left and right to find a antenna position that receives one or both.

Either one or both should be easy to receive.


A preamplifier can be installed , a Antennas Direct CPA-19.

The antennas are connected to the combiner and the CPA-19 preamp is connected the combiner so that both antennas have the Tv signals pushed through the coax out to the Tv.

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As stated before with reference provided , KTVG-TV 19 Fox is not on the air.

KHGI-TV is 13.1 ABC and 13.2 is KFXL Fox.

It is fox that I was missing, but now looking into it, the TDVG not being on the air, and 13.2 being a fox station, I think I can get everything in my area with the C5. The only reason I got the DB4e was for the UHF Fox....

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Yes I agree the C5 will most likely receive all the VHF and UHF transmissions , the transmissions are fairly strong and the PBS station KHNE-DT Real UHF channel 28 , Virtual channel 29 is very strong at your location.

It is interesting to note that the DB4e is a UHF antenna and PBS is a UHF station.

Keep the DB4e you may still need it yet.


What I am interested in is the VHF low band channel 5 that is being received by the C5. Any , pixalation , dropouts ?? What does the signal strength meter show. Does the signal strength fluctuate or stay steady??

What about day and night reception , any problems??

What about reception , before , during and after storms.

Signal strengths of my channels. Interistingly, pointing my antenna at about 60 degrees gives me my best strength for channel 5.1 and 5.2. Also picked up 7.1 and 7.2, but it is weak....12%

KHAS-DT 5.1.........35%
KHAS-D2 5.2.........35%
KLKN-TV 8.1..........50%
KLKN-LWN 8.2.......50%
kOLN-DT 10.1........48%
MYTV. 10.2........48%
KHGI-TV 13.1.......LOST
KFXL-TV 13.2.......LOST.......this is the Fox I wanted, so I'm going to have to turn it back around.
NET HD 29.1........25%, but drops out to 0
NET 2 29.2...........25%, but drops out to 0
NET 3 29.3...........25%, but drops out to 0

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Keep the DB4e you may still require it for reception.

Thanks for the information of Channel 5 and aiming directions.

The CPA-19 preamp might get signal strengths of all the channels up for better reception.



You could get the HD7084P antenna it will do a much better job of receiving channel 5 and the other channels.

And might receive , KLKN channel 8 and KOLN channel 10 , at the back angle of the HD7084P antenna.

You can keep all three antennas for now to expirment with.

I turned the c5 back around to point west (Pretty much straight west) so I could hone in on 13.1 and 13.2, Since this would give me both an ABC and Fox. I did pick up 13.1-2, but all my signals dropped everywhere else. Oddly enough, I picked up 6.1, 6.2, 7.1 and 7.2 on the scan. The signal must have peaked when I did the scan because there was no signal there when I flipped through the channels.

KHAS-DT 5.1.........22%
KHAS-D2 5.2.........22%
KLKN-TV 8.1.........33%
KLKN-LWN 8.2.......33%
kOLN-DT 10.1........35%
MYTV. 10.2........35%
KHGI-TV 13.1.......20%
KFXL-TV 13.2......18%
NET HD 29.1........38%
NET 2 29.2...........38%
NET 3 29.3...........38%

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This last batch of signals/strengths are producing stable pictures and sound??

They seem to be. I had the 13.1 and 2 up at around 27-28, but after I secured my mast, my signals dropped, so I'll have to adjust again......If it wasn't for the 13.1 and 13.2 channels, those signals from before when the antenna was pointed at around 60 degrees was pretty sweet.

What about these RCA antennas that advertise 100 miles and such. It seems that they are a lot cheaper. Any reviews?........The goal here is to save money from dish...LOL Some of these antennas can get pretty pricey by the time you add in a rotator, mast, mast stand, etc.... :)

The earth is round... not flat. Anyone claiming an antenna can reliably receive signal from 100 miles away should be treated with extreme skepticism. At best, they're ignorant of the physics involved. Worst case, they're dishonest scammers.

Night time reception.....WOW, 28 stations
5.1...38%
5.2...38%
6.1...10%....but not solid
6.2..."
7.1, 7.2..had it on the scan, but lost it
8.1, 8.2...31%
10.1, 10.2...40%
11.1, 11.2...10%
12.1, 12.2, 12.3...15%
13.1, 13.2...27%
16.1,2,3,4,5....had them when I scanned, but gone now...10 minutes ago
29.1,2,3...40%
42.1,2,3...15%

EDIT...rescanned....down to 15 stations

Just wierd....this acts like AM radio at night. One minute a station is there, the next it isn't. I'm actually picking up a station out of South Dakota! Not even on my tvfool report. Channel 7 is 150 miles from me.

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You can find out more , type , tv dxing , or , tv dx , in the google search box.

Half way thinking about putting my C5 on a rotator.

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If you can easily run a cable for the rotor, use the Channel Master 9215 rotor,

If the cable run is difficult use an Eagel Aspen Roto 100. This operates with the signal cable, if you need a pre-amp with this configuration you must use a Winegard AP 2870.

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If it is DX that you are after , the Winegard HD7082P and HD7084P make great DX antennas.

They are great for putting on a antenna rotator to zero in on those loooong distance Tv stations.

This over the air stuff is awesome! It is so cool because, especially at night, you never know where your going to pull a station from. I'm pulling two stations out of Omaha, 150 miles away with 33% and 35% signal. The other night I pulled out of South Dakota, and tonight, authough week, and unwatchable, I'm pulling from Des Moines, Ia...KSDM. I'm sending the DB4e back. I'm getting everything I want and more with my C5. FYI, my C5 is pointed at about 245-250*.

I know your right, but it is just funny how they get away with it. As I'm sitting here reading this very forum, I noticed an ad on the right hand edge for Antennadeals.com, advertising a 150 mile outdoor antenna.

My understanding (not first hand, I'm an unpaid volunteer) is that a third party service 'pushes' those ads... Our other alternative is to fund TV Fool by paying for it's use.

Given that the technical information provided in the TV Fool report would have required the services of an engineering firm just a few years ago, at the cost of hundreds or even thousands of dollars for billed hours, I'm able to 'tune out' the ads.

On the other hand, there are days when you should be paid to take my advise...:D

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Several years ago when I was ' in to ' DX , I was living in South Western Kansas , I often watched 2 California Tv stations for several hours at a time.

Oklahoma , Texas , Nebraska , Colorado .

Tv DX signals can be received for a second or even hours at a time.

Out past a target figure of say 80 miles , - Reliable - Broadcast Tv Reception has less to do with the antenna and more to do with the lay of the land.

As examples but not the only examples , the transmitting antenna is up alot higher then the receiving antenna , or the receiving antenna is up alot higher then the transmitting antenna.

Weather and atmospheric conditions are a big part of DX.

The internet is a good place to find DX'ers and all about how to get the DX reception.

Hard core DX'ers are into getting the impossible to get reception and proudly display the ' screen shots ' to prove it.

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The antenna scammers make their money buy selling antennas to the many people that fall for the idea that they will receive signals from Mars and beyond for $39.95.

If the Tv antenna looks like a futuristic Tv antenna in a grade B 1950's Si Fi movie , well that is the clue that it is a scam antenna.

Many people are Buzz Word oriented , HD this , and HD that , and HD something else , and etc.

The promise of the , -->All Important HD<-- , with no thought or facts to back it up , is all it takes to get their credit card out.

What kind of equipment were you using at the time? Do you have to put a lot of special equipment into play to do DXing? Would the c5 be any good for thid if it were on a rotator?

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Hobby DXing the type and kind that most people do does not require much money , a All channel fringe antenna a antenna rotator.

A Winegard HD7082P or HD7084P or CM3679 antenna.

The channel Master antenna rotator CM9521A.

Atmospheric conditions and day or night conditions and seasons of year and more all play a part in DX.

I used a CM3679 for some of my Dxing.

Yes the C5 can work well for casual Dxing.

Go antennadirect.com and look at the reception pattern of the C5.

The thing about casual DXing is that when the signal is in --> it is in , and usually strong.

A low gain preamp such as CPA-19 can be used to keep the signal strength form going to low when the signal strength is going up and down like roller coaster.

Then there are the hard core Dxers over time they have put big dollars in to their elaborate systems and antennas , they are after the signals that are impossible to get.

Well, now this is strange. I finally got my tower put up, and my C5 mounted......not fine tuned yet, but pointed in the general direction....about 245-250ish... Antenna is about 27' up. There are a few stations with a high signal strength, 63%, and I'm getting that "digital" blip on my screen, as if my signal is low, but it isn't. These stations was solid at much lower signals a few weeks ago when my antenna was mounted at about 15-20'. Thoughts?

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As always , trees and tree leaves do a real fine job of , reflecting , reducing , blocking Tv reception , and so do buildings and other objects and other obstructions.

It is best to locate a Tv antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions in the directions of reception.