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Old 16-Aug-2011, 7:23 PM   #1
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I am looking to cut the cable and install an outdoor rooftop antenna. My zip code is 49504. My location is fairly flat with some large trees around. I have a two story house that sits high. The peak of my roof is probably 30 feet off the ground.

Can you suggest a good antenna for me?
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Old 16-Aug-2011, 8:14 PM   #2
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Please make and post a radar report with the exact address and expected antenna height. http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=4
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Old 18-Aug-2011, 5:46 PM   #3
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A neighbor has the Winegard MS2000 and claims very good results. I like its look and easy installation, but am afraid it may not get as many channels as would a larger conventional antenna. Appreciate any responses.
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Old 18-Aug-2011, 7:53 PM   #4
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An amplified antenna such as the MS2000 could be overloaded by the strong signals from WXSP, WTLJ and WXMI. I would recommend against the MS2000 and any other antenna with a built-in amplifier.

Are you interested in receiving every possible channel? Or do you have a list of 'must-have' channels?
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Old 18-Aug-2011, 9:00 PM   #5
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Go to the neighbors and see if . WXSP MyNetwork , WTLJ Religion , WXMI FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv , WGVU PBS , are being received , they are the strong channels that might overload the amplifier in the MS2000. If these channels are being received then you should be Ok also. I say give the MS2000 a try. Please note that omnidirectional antennas are not really 100 % omnidirectional and my need to turn the antenna for best reception and then tighten the clamps. If you receive Tv stations down to W17DF-D 17 you will be doing fine. The stations that are below W17DF have co channel interference and adjacent channel interference so even with a better antenna you will still have reception problems with some of the co channel / adjacent channel interference channels. . Buy googling the stations call letters like this , w17df tv , I found that w17df tv is FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv . w48cl tv is 3ANB 3 Angles Broadcasting Network , wuhq tv is ABC - The Cool Tv .

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Old 18-Aug-2011, 9:33 PM   #6
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Here are some antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/90991.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html . Also read and understand this about , REAL Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Virtual Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Analog Broadcast Tv Channels , http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=695
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Old 18-Aug-2011, 9:40 PM   #7
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You can use the cable tv coax for the antenna hook up , how ever Do Not connect the antenna and active cable service on to the same cable line at the same time. No active cable Tv , No active cable internet service , No active cable phone service. on the same cable line or lines that have the antenna connected also.
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Old 19-Aug-2011, 2:11 PM   #8
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Go to the neighbors and see if . WXSP MyNetwork , WTLJ Religion , WXMI FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv , WGVU PBS , are being received , they are the strong channels that might overload the amplifier in the MS2000. If these channels are being received then you should be Ok also. I say give the MS2000 a try. Please note that omnidirectional antennas are not really 100 % omnidirectional and my need to turn the antenna for best reception and then tighten the clamps. If you receive Tv stations down to W17DF-D 17 you will be doing fine. The stations that are below W17DF have co channel interference and adjacent channel interference so even with a better antenna you will still have reception problems with some of the co channel / adjacent channel interference channels. . Buy googling the stations call letters like this , w17df tv , I found that w17df tv is FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv . w48cl tv is 3ANB 3 Angles Broadcasting Network , wuhq tv is ABC - The Cool Tv .
Thank you both.

I am only interested in getting the stations on the list down to W17DF-D. I think I will buy the MS2000 and see how well it works. If it overloads the strong stations I will return it.

Do you guys have any suggestions on where I should buy it?
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Old 19-Aug-2011, 2:25 PM   #9
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Here are some antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/90991.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html . Also read and understand this about , REAL Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Virtual Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Analog Broadcast Tv Channels , http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=695

I have an old satellite dish on my roof. The dish is not functioning. I have seen ads showing the MS2000 mounted to the dish mount. Is this a good idea?
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Old 19-Aug-2011, 3:14 PM   #10
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I think I will buy the MS2000 and see how well it works. If it overloads the strong stations I will return it.
The thing about overloaded amps is that it affects all channels at the same time. Even if you only have 1 strong channel, it might be enough to make all of your channels go away. The channel corruption is not limited to just the strong channels.



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I have an old satellite dish on my roof. The dish is not functioning. I have seen ads showing the MS2000 mounted to the dish mount. Is this a good idea?
Yes, this can work, but you need to check a few things:

- The MS-2000 can only accomodate a mast diameter of up to 1-3/4". Make sure the mast is not too big for the mount attachment.

- Does the mount location give the antenna good visibility to the horizon in all directions? The antenna can't pull in the stations if the building is blocking the signals.

- Antennas work best when there is nothing around them. Make sure the antenna is clear of any obstructions as much as possible, especially anything metal.
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Old 19-Aug-2011, 3:43 PM   #11
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I just spoke with a antenna wholesale distributor and he claimed they do not carry the MS2000 any longer because of too many returns due to parts failing within a few months. He recommended the Channel Master 3000A. Any thoughts on that antenna? As I understand it, it is very similar with the same as the MS2000.
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Old 19-Aug-2011, 6:04 PM   #12
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Yes thats Channel Masters Newest one , the 3000A , yes use that one.
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Old 19-Aug-2011, 6:37 PM   #13
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After you have had some time evaluate the 3000A for , reception and quality and what ever else you think about it. Please tell us here at this post that you have started , do not start a new post as it causes confusion. I am always gathering information about antennas and Tv reception , also what is the name , address and phone number and web site of the wholesale distributor , Thank you. Yes the dish mast mount is Ok to mount the 3000A. Mount the 3000A level with the ground , not tipped at odd angles or standing on end. Also as mtownsend said , it is best to mount the 3000A so it is clear of obstructions as much as possible nothing blocking the view of the antenna of all directions.

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