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Old 8-Jul-2018, 11:08 PM   #21
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There are areas in East Mesa near Falcon Field that TV Fool indicat esare line of sight that are not. In fact, I've gotten better signals from Tucson than some of the Phoenix stations in Ftn Hills and East Mesa. I doubt the signals in your area are as strong as your report suggests. An attic antenna with a tile roof is always a disaster. Even asphalt roofs degrade the signal enough to create problems.
Based on his TVFool report, it looks like he is about 5 miles ESE of Falcon Field. He entered AL for his TVFool report instead of AZ, but Google maps figured it out from the zip code, I think.



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Perhaps your wife would like to view the tv using an attic antenna and you can watch the tv using an outdoor antenna.
I remember a case where the wife objected to an outside antenna. The husband set up two temporary antennas, one indoors and one on the roof.

He had the wife and two children sit down and vote for which antenna gave the best reception. The children voted for the outdoor antenna for what they wanted to watch; the outdoor antenna won.

Some wives find the design of the Antennas Direct C2V acceptable.

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Old 8-Jul-2018, 11:54 PM   #22
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Lol wifey does not like football
Just sop on ABC.lol
Do you have an RV dealler
Near by if you do stop in
And ask them about king jack
With its SIGNAL finder I bet
If you ask them too give you
A demonstrations of it and IT'S like ten ft off the ground
I bet the king jack down the road get's everything you are
Looking for in channels too RECEIVE and no pointing it left
Or right and you think it's pointing right at the broadcasting tower.
You just sit down and your channel disappears.lol dagnabit.lol
But really good luck with your antenna but just check out a king
Jack some time,ps they say a receive of 70miles 32dbg.

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Old 9-Jul-2018, 1:02 PM   #23
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C2v?

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Based on his TVFool report, it looks like he is about 5 miles ESE of Falcon Field. He entered AL for his TVFool report instead of AZ, but Google maps figured it out from the zip code, I think.



I remember a case where the wife objected to an outside antenna. The husband set up two temporary antennas, one indoors and one on the roof.

He had the wife and two children sit down and vote for which antenna gave the best reception. The children voted for the outdoor antenna for what they wanted to watch; the outdoor antenna won.

Some wives find the design of the Antennas Direct C2V acceptable.

For the price of that antenna and no amp
I still say king Jack IT'S hi&low band VHF/UHF 32 dbg with a billtin SIGNAL
Finder up to 70miles cost $80 to $95dollars free shipping
And it's is so much better looking then the C2v,
And will out perform and out last it I have been
Looking at one of the C2V that someone put on
There house 2years ago and IT'S not looking
Too good,lol in Springfield Massachusetts
Sorry Ribbit too tock bad about antennas Direct
But it is true.but they do make one he'll of ANTENNA
And that is the 91xg that are At the top of my 150ft tower!!
With my 1500miles of RECEIVE North Carolina and South Carolina
And so on and wifey says it's cool to see OTHER state's news&
Tv broadcasting channel's far away!!

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Old 10-Jul-2018, 3:24 PM   #24
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For the price of that antenna and no amp
I still say king Jack IT'S hi&low band VHF/UHF 32 dbg with a billtin SIGNAL
Finder up to 70miles cost $80 to $95dollars free shipping
And it's is so much better looking then the C2v,
And will out perform and out last it I have been
Looking at one of the C2V that someone put on
There house 2years ago and IT'S not looking
Too good,lol in Springfield Massachusetts
Sorry Ribbit too tock bad about antennas Direct
But it is true.but they do make one he'll of ANTENNA
And that is the 91xg that are At the top of my 150ft tower!!
With my 1500miles of RECEIVE North Carolina and South Carolina
And so on and wifey says it's cool to see OTHER state's news&
Tv broadcasting channel's far away!!
Thanks everyone for the replies. You are correct, I'm in AZ, just east of Falcon Field. If I did the King Jack antenna, is it still fine to mount it in the attic? Basically, whatever antenna I get, I want to mount it in the attic. What do you think is the best for that?
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Old 10-Jul-2018, 3:48 PM   #25
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Ah, yes; we have encountered that before. We call it the WAF (Wife Acceptance/Approval Factor). It's a result of the nesting instinct for the survival of the human race. The home is the "nest," so she gets to say what is right for the home, even in the "Man Cave."

The physical laws say the antenna must be located where the signals exist; the wife says the antenna must be located where it looks "nice."

"The King lives in the Castle at the discretion of the Queen."

I'm lucky. I have a wife who not only tolerates my antenna experiments, but encourages them because she wanted a battery operated TV for use during power failures. She even gave me a signal level meter as a present to measure TV signals.

Fortunately, your signals are quite strong and in the same direction, so I agree with Tower Guy; an attic antenna has a good chance of working if there are no metal object in front of it.

These are your signals:



My signals are very similar:



I am able to receive all major networks with an indoor antenna on the ground floor with trees and buildings in the signal path.

I am using this antenna:



I lent it to a friend, but she wasn't able to get any signals during a channel scan with the antenna indoors because her house has aluminum siding.

I also tested a more sturdy version suitable for outdoors with similar results:



Both require assembly.

When I was through testing the GE 29884, my wife said: "Don't put it away, I like the curve of the reflector."



My antenna is in the corner of the bedroom, which is the second-best location; the best location was, of course, in the middle of the room in a high traffic area. There is usually a chair in front of it to hide the orange Home Depot paint bucket, which is filled with old magazines as weights. The bucket is sitting on a 3/4" plywood base that has leveling-screw feet to make the mast vertical because the concrete slab under the carpet isn't level.



I also suggest you try the RCA ANT751 in the attic at several different locations. Wear gloves when unfolding the elements; some are sharp and covered with oil. If the signals are too weak, add the RCA TVPRAMP1R preamp, which is what I use with my indoor antenna, but my strongest signals are OK without it. Buy the preamp from Walmart, not Amazon; Amazon sometimes sends out Warehouse Specials that are returns that have a DOA power supply because they haven't been checked out.

If the RCA ANT751 doesn't have enough gain for the attic location, upgrade to the Winegard HD7694P antenna.
Thanks for the reply. See attached picture of the house. I pointed the arrow to the direction that the signal is coming from. There really isn't a gable vent pointing that direction and I'm not sure what type of material was used for insulation. We close on the house in August, but it's exciting to live in a place that actually has TV reception that doesn't require a 50 ft pole.
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Old 10-Jul-2018, 6:55 PM   #26
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I seriously hope you can receive satisfactory reception from your attic.
Unlike most other areas, in Arizona many homes have tile roofs. Those
tiles are made of concrete. Concrete blocks radio and television signals
as well as other signals. Most stucco homes have concrete and a chickenwire
sublayer for strength. Both of those also block signals from entering
the home. I've used the GE 29884 several times with good results.
It might be used in your attic but if it doesn't work well there, it is small
enough to be hidden from view from the front of your home. One small
note: The GE 29884 needs to be adjusted not only side to side but up
and down as well. A few degrees tilt up or down can make all the difference
with that antenna. Hope this helps.
Joe in Prescott, AZ
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Old 10-Jul-2018, 8:26 PM   #27
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Thanks everyone for the replies. You are correct, I'm in AZ, just east of Falcon Field. If I did the King Jack antenna, is it still fine to mount it in the attic? Basically, whatever antenna I get, I want to mount it in the attic. What do you think is the best for that?
The King Jack antenna is a poor choice for the attic. It is designed to mount on the roof of an RV and operated from inside below the roof. Also, its amplifier and your tuner would be overloaded by your strong signals.
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Old 11-Jul-2018, 1:39 PM   #28
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I can see why you want an attic antenna at the Mountain Bridge Community. Yet, with stucco walls and concrete roof tiles, an attic antenna is iffy.

If an attic antenna doesn’t work, I’d install a J pole on the rear gable end a few ft left or right from the ridge. I’d mount an ANT 751 1 ft higher than the ridge. This combination would be nearly invisible from the street and perfect for reception.

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Old 11-Jul-2018, 3:56 PM   #29
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Over loads won t happen I bet you can tack the king Jack
And put it on top of the tv seat like a seat of Rabbit ears.
He'll I will tell you what if it doesn't work I will buy it frum
You for the same price you paded for it +shipping cost
Just too proven my point.but go to an RV place down
The road like I suggested be for and you can adjust the
Amp's power and besides in side the house I don't think you will
Have an over load problem!!!

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