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Old 19-Jul-2012, 8:16 PM   #41
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Do you have a preamp connected? If so, what make/model?

What's the total length of coax from the antenna to the tuner?

Can you describe the layout from the antenna to the tuner?
(Ex. Antenna, 2 feet of RG-6, UVSJ combiner, 10 feet of RG-6, splice, 50 feet of RG-6, 8-way splitter, 15 feet of RG-6, tuner)
No preamp, due to me only having one tv hooked up. I estimate that I have about 130' of RG-6. (it is the exact same cable that was used with my DirectV set up. It would be a few feet between the antenna and the long cable run, joined by a barrel connector. Next run would be aproximatly 91 feet, then barrel connector for another 25 feet, where it runs into the house, so there would be another barrel connector, then the remainder to the tv. (all measurments are approximate).

Channels I'm pulling:
KHAS-DT 5.1
KHAS-D2 5.2
KLKN-TV 8.1
KLKN-LWN 8.2
KHGI-TV 13.1
KFXL-TV 13.2
NET HD 29.1
NET 2 29.2
NET 3 29.3
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Old 19-Jul-2012, 8:20 PM   #42
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The C5 at about 245 degree magnetic compass.

The DB4e at 250 degree magnetic compass.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

The C5 and DB4e connected to gather with the combiner.

At this time connect only 1 tuner/tv.

No splitters.

Rescan for channels.

KHNE PBS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebrask...communications.


Looks like KTVG is off the air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSNB-TV.


Tvfool is not 100% up to date.

It can take some digging to get closer to the latest information.

I have a question , how is the reception of , KHAS-DT channel 5 with the C5 antenna.

Any pixalation , picture drop outs , ??

If your tuner has a signal strength meter what does that show??
I am not at my TV any more, but it seemed that while the signal wasn't AWESOME, the picture seemed solid. However, I only had it on for a few minutes while I was scanning. I will address that specific channel again for you and post back here about it.
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Old 19-Jul-2012, 8:46 PM   #43
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These sort of problems are why I recommend an all channel antenna and a rotor. Aim to all UHF and VHF channels from your easy chair.
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Old 19-Jul-2012, 9:04 PM   #44
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130' of RG-6 (roughly 7 dB of loss in the UHF band) and the weak signal from real channel 19, KTVG call for a preamp.
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Old 19-Jul-2012, 9:05 PM   #45
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So that leaves KOLN-DT channel 10 , CBS and MyNetwork. at 91 degree magnetic compass. Signal strength 28.7 NM (dB) , plenty strong.


And KGIN-DT channel 11 , CBS and MyNetwork. at 241 degree magnetic compass. Signal Strength 12.7 NM(dB) , weak but receivable.

The C5 does a fairly good job of receiving in all directions.

Best reception at the front and good reception at back of the antenna and less at the sides of the C5 antenna.


Turn the C5 antenna to the left and right to find a antenna position that receives one or both.

Either one or both should be easy to receive.


A preamplifier can be installed , a Antennas Direct CPA-19.

The antennas are connected to the combiner and the CPA-19 preamp is connected the combiner so that both antennas have the Tv signals pushed through the coax out to the Tv.

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Old 19-Jul-2012, 9:09 PM   #46
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As stated before with reference provided , KTVG-TV 19 Fox is not on the air.

KHGI-TV is 13.1 ABC and 13.2 is KFXL Fox.
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Old 19-Jul-2012, 9:30 PM   #47
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It is fox that I was missing, but now looking into it, the TDVG not being on the air, and 13.2 being a fox station, I think I can get everything in my area with the C5. The only reason I got the DB4e was for the UHF Fox....
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Old 20-Jul-2012, 4:05 AM   #48
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Yes I agree the C5 will most likely receive all the VHF and UHF transmissions , the transmissions are fairly strong and the PBS station KHNE-DT Real UHF channel 28 , Virtual channel 29 is very strong at your location.

It is interesting to note that the DB4e is a UHF antenna and PBS is a UHF station.

Keep the DB4e you may still need it yet.


What I am interested in is the VHF low band channel 5 that is being received by the C5. Any , pixalation , dropouts ?? What does the signal strength meter show. Does the signal strength fluctuate or stay steady??

What about day and night reception , any problems??

What about reception , before , during and after storms.

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Old 20-Jul-2012, 3:54 PM   #49
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Signal strengths of my channels. Interistingly, pointing my antenna at about 60 degrees gives me my best strength for channel 5.1 and 5.2. Also picked up 7.1 and 7.2, but it is weak....12%

KHAS-DT 5.1.........35%
KHAS-D2 5.2.........35%
KLKN-TV 8.1..........50%
KLKN-LWN 8.2.......50%
kOLN-DT 10.1........48%
MYTV. 10.2........48%
KHGI-TV 13.1.......LOST
KFXL-TV 13.2.......LOST.......this is the Fox I wanted, so I'm going to have to turn it back around.
NET HD 29.1........25%, but drops out to 0
NET 2 29.2...........25%, but drops out to 0
NET 3 29.3...........25%, but drops out to 0
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Old 20-Jul-2012, 7:41 PM   #50
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Keep the DB4e you may still require it for reception.

Thanks for the information of Channel 5 and aiming directions.

The CPA-19 preamp might get signal strengths of all the channels up for better reception.



You could get the HD7084P antenna it will do a much better job of receiving channel 5 and the other channels.

And might receive , KLKN channel 8 and KOLN channel 10 , at the back angle of the HD7084P antenna.

You can keep all three antennas for now to expirment with.

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Old 20-Jul-2012, 8:42 PM   #51
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I turned the c5 back around to point west (Pretty much straight west) so I could hone in on 13.1 and 13.2, Since this would give me both an ABC and Fox. I did pick up 13.1-2, but all my signals dropped everywhere else. Oddly enough, I picked up 6.1, 6.2, 7.1 and 7.2 on the scan. The signal must have peaked when I did the scan because there was no signal there when I flipped through the channels.

KHAS-DT 5.1.........22%
KHAS-D2 5.2.........22%
KLKN-TV 8.1.........33%
KLKN-LWN 8.2.......33%
kOLN-DT 10.1........35%
MYTV. 10.2........35%
KHGI-TV 13.1.......20%
KFXL-TV 13.2......18%
NET HD 29.1........38%
NET 2 29.2...........38%
NET 3 29.3...........38%
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Old 20-Jul-2012, 9:02 PM   #52
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This last batch of signals/strengths are producing stable pictures and sound??
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Old 20-Jul-2012, 9:44 PM   #53
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They seem to be. I had the 13.1 and 2 up at around 27-28, but after I secured my mast, my signals dropped, so I'll have to adjust again......If it wasn't for the 13.1 and 13.2 channels, those signals from before when the antenna was pointed at around 60 degrees was pretty sweet.
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Old 20-Jul-2012, 10:04 PM   #54
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You could get the HD7084P antenna it will do a much better job of receiving channel 5 and the other channels.

And might receive , KLKN channel 8 and KOLN channel 10 , at the back angle of the HD7084P antenna.

You can keep all three antennas for now to expirment with.
What about these RCA antennas that advertise 100 miles and such. It seems that they are a lot cheaper. Any reviews?........The goal here is to save money from dish...LOL Some of these antennas can get pretty pricey by the time you add in a rotator, mast, mast stand, etc....
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Old 20-Jul-2012, 10:33 PM   #55
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The earth is round... not flat. Anyone claiming an antenna can reliably receive signal from 100 miles away should be treated with extreme skepticism. At best, they're ignorant of the physics involved. Worst case, they're dishonest scammers.
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Old 21-Jul-2012, 5:22 AM   #56
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Night time reception.....WOW, 28 stations
5.1...38%
5.2...38%
6.1...10%....but not solid
6.2..."
7.1, 7.2..had it on the scan, but lost it
8.1, 8.2...31%
10.1, 10.2...40%
11.1, 11.2...10%
12.1, 12.2, 12.3...15%
13.1, 13.2...27%
16.1,2,3,4,5....had them when I scanned, but gone now...10 minutes ago
29.1,2,3...40%
42.1,2,3...15%

EDIT...rescanned....down to 15 stations
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Old 21-Jul-2012, 6:28 AM   #57
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Just wierd....this acts like AM radio at night. One minute a station is there, the next it isn't. I'm actually picking up a station out of South Dakota! Not even on my tvfool report. Channel 7 is 150 miles from me.
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Old 21-Jul-2012, 7:08 AM   #58
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You can find out more , type , tv dxing , or , tv dx , in the google search box.
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Old 21-Jul-2012, 10:06 PM   #59
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Half way thinking about putting my C5 on a rotator.
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Old 21-Jul-2012, 10:24 PM   #60
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If you can easily run a cable for the rotor, use the Channel Master 9215 rotor,

If the cable run is difficult use an Eagel Aspen Roto 100. This operates with the signal cable, if you need a pre-amp with this configuration you must use a Winegard AP 2870.
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