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Old 19-Jun-2014, 5:50 AM   #61
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I'm looking at replacing my 23 year old Antennacraft VU-160XR combination VHF/FM/UHF antenna that I've had on my chimney on a rotator. It's been pretty good for all those years. I'd like a good quality one, be it an indoor or outdoor. I don't know if it's possible to get any Seattle stations without causing issues with my close proximity local channels. CBUT-DT UHF 43 is also broadcasting from Mt. Seymour at a higher ERP (103kW) more than all the other green zone local Mt. Seymour channels.
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Old 19-Jun-2014, 8:38 AM   #62
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The local signals are all on UHF channels. You don't need all the gain of the Antennas Direct DB8E, but it's flexible aiming features make it a good choice for reception of the two separate groups of signals, east and south.

Trying for reception of the Seattle market is not completely impossible, but I think the best you can hope for is intermittent reception that's dependent on variable atmospheric conditions. If you want to try, consider the basic DX combination of an Antennas Direct 91XG + Antennacraft Y10713 + RCA TVPRAMP1R. I'd keep the local and DX antenna systems separate.
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Old 19-Jun-2014, 4:25 PM   #63
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The Current Tvfool report.

The Digital Current Plus Pending Applications Included Channel List and Radar Report , the Green and Yellow Reception Zones Show that the Channels are All UHF Channels.

Install a Antennas Direct , DB8e , UHF Channels Antenna in such a manner that reception is not , obstructed , impeded , blocked , by the Roof and Building in the directions of , East North East , South East , South West , West.

Aim 1 panel of the DB8e antenna at about 65 degree magnetic compass direction.

Aim the other panel of the DB8e antenna at about 146 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna , do not trust a , cell phone , tablet and etc. compass.

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A antenna system amplifier is not required.

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Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. .

http://www.tdlcanada.ca.

http://www.saveandreplay.com.

http://www.epvision.com.
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Old 19-Jun-2014, 5:34 PM   #64
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Thanks GroundUrMast

Separate systems for local and dx sounds like a good idea. I've seen some cheap looking 8-bays, but I'd want to stick with a known manufacturer. I could try the 91XG on a rotator, but I think I might have to be turning it a lot.
Right now, I'm getting intermittent pixelation and breakups even on nearby locals and I was thinking there might be breaks in the coax going down the roof on the shingles.
Although I'd lose some height, I was considering putting the antenna on the two 10' poles at the side of my house instead of the chimney. It would save about 35' of coax and the associated signal loss.

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Old 19-Jun-2014, 6:20 PM   #65
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If in doubt, replace the coax.

FWIW, 35' of coax is not going to produce more than 1.5 to 2 dB of loss. I'd bet the added height is worth more than that in terms of net signal to noise. However, you may want to experiment with several mounting locations. Focus on signal quality, not just strength. Your TVFR suggests you have little need to be concerned about the strength of the local signals.

Consider the analogy of water... Polluted, dirty water is no more fit to drink when delivered at high pressure and volume than when it drips slowly from the tap. I'll take a slow stream of clean water if that's all that can be had. If you place the antenna where it can receive the cleanest signal, then deal with getting the signal to the TV, your opportunity for reliable reception will be better.
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Old 10-Jul-2014, 2:15 AM   #66
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RE: Thinking about an indoor antenna

I've been wondering if there is a recommended well performing indoor antenna for my situation. It would be nice to dx and get Seattle, but, apart from a separate setup, are there smaller, even good indoor antennas that should get my green area channels?
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