TV Fool  

Go Back   TV Fool > Over The Air Services > Help With Reception

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 20-Mar-2011, 10:05 PM   #1
musky
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 14
Help with 4 bay antenna singal needed

I bought 2 4 bay antennas to ru to 2 tv,s ....the problem is if i turn the antenna towards toronto i pick up toronto,s stations fine,but lose buffalo,s and vise versa...heres my question if i point 1 antenna towards toronto and 1 toward,s bufflo can i run them into a splitter then connect it to my tv??each antenna has its own connection,but it seems i need to point each antenna towards buffalo or toronto to get both singals.....

please help


my antenna is - eaglestar pro model 53-6303 uhf antenna.


Code:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d8d17f71658cb0b

Last edited by musky; 20-Mar-2011 at 11:49 PM.
musky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-Mar-2011, 4:26 AM   #2
GroundUrMast
Moderator
 
GroundUrMast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Greater Seattle Area
Posts: 4,758
Combining two antennas with a common splitter may work. In most situations, the result is less than hoped for.

The up-side is; It won't hurt anything to try. If it works, it's cheap and you get to brag to all your friends.

The down side; You may loose some channels or make them unreliable.

If it fails, consider using an A/B switch.
__________________
If the well is dry and you don't see rain on the horizon, you'll need to dig the hole deeper. (If the antenna can't get the job done, an amp won't fix it.)

(Please direct account activation inquiries to 'admin')

Last edited by GroundUrMast; 21-Mar-2011 at 5:07 AM.
GroundUrMast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-Mar-2011, 4:29 AM   #3
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

Here is the radar report , http://tvfool.com/?option=com_wrappe...8d17f71658cb0b

Last edited by John Candle; 12-Apr-2011 at 9:53 AM.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-Mar-2011, 4:31 AM   #4
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

I will provide a better answer. I will provide the correct answer and the correct way to do it. . .

Last edited by John Candle; 24-Mar-2011 at 7:01 PM.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-Mar-2011, 9:07 PM   #5
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

A roof top Channelmaster CM3016 all channel antenna pointed at Toronto and a Channelmaster 2020HD 7 thru 69 channel antenna pointed at Buffalo. The CM3016 will have a 2 way splitter and the CM2020 will have a 2 way splitter. The input of one of the 2 way splitters will be connected to the CM3016 and the input of the other 2 way splitter will be connected to the 2020HD. The outputs of the 2 way splitters will go to both Tv's and are connected to , remote control A/B antenna switch at the Tv's. Here is where to buy the antennas and remote control A/B antenna switch and etc.. in Canada. http://www.saveandreplay.com , http://www.trentondistributors.com . Here is more information about Tv in Canada , http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/105462 , http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum , http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/home-accueil.htm , http://www.friends.ca

Last edited by John Candle; 24-Mar-2011 at 7:03 PM.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-Mar-2011, 9:22 PM   #6
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

The Tv stations in Canada are changing to Digital Tv transmission NOW. And are transmitting Digital Tv NOW. After the August 31 2011 point of reference date , Canada will have a Mix of Digital Tv transmitters and Analog Tv transmitters.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-Mar-2011, 9:31 PM   #7
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

Here are some online free Tv guides for the States , http://www.titantv.com , http://television.aol.com , http://zap2it.com

Last edited by John Candle; 12-Apr-2011 at 9:54 AM.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-Mar-2011, 2:35 PM   #8
musky
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by GroundUrMast View Post
Combining two antennas with a common splitter may work. In most situations, the result is less than hoped for.

The up-side is; It won't hurt anything to try. If it works, it's cheap and you get to brag to all your friends.

The down side; You may loose some channels or make them unreliable.

If it fails, consider using an A/B switch.


ok i tryed the splitter and it worked fine thanks....except city tv is a little fuzzy..is the anything i could get to boost singals,also if i wanted to run it to 2 tv,s.
musky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-Mar-2011, 4:49 PM   #9
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

Canada Tv stations transmit the same type and kind of Digital and Analog Tv signals as the states. Read and understand about , Real Digital Tv Channels , Virtual Digital Tv Channels , Analog Tv Channels , http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=695.

Last edited by John Candle; 22-Mar-2011 at 4:56 PM.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-Mar-2011, 7:03 PM   #10
GroundUrMast
Moderator
 
GroundUrMast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Greater Seattle Area
Posts: 4,758
Consider yourself fortunate. By combining two identical antennas, you have reduced the signal power from each by more than 50% which may result in weaker analog signals appearing noisier (snow). You are also receiving reflected signals via the opposing antenna which will contribute to ghosting on analog channels.

The most reliable method of reducing snow and ghosting is to use one antenna with high gain and directional sensitivity. For valid reasons, you have chosen to do the exact opposite, you have built a low gain, less directional antenna system. Compromise is often needed when building a working antenna system.

As Canada transitions from analog to digital, you may see everything get better... CITY-DT (real channel 53) appears on your report but may or may not be on the air yet. If you have problems receiving new digital stations as they come on line, be prepared to revisit the need for A/B switching or a rotator. In an all digital environment you may also consider the use of network attached tuners.

To distribute to multiple sets, I would recommend trying a passive splitter with the exact number of ports needed to serve all active sets. If you loose some signals due to the splitter loss, add a distribution amplifier such as the PCT-MA2-M, AKA Channel Master CM-3410. Amplifiers overcome loss after the antenna, they don't fix ghosting or signals mixed with noise.

Rule of thumb: One amplifier/preamp can be too many, two amplifiers are too many.
__________________
If the well is dry and you don't see rain on the horizon, you'll need to dig the hole deeper. (If the antenna can't get the job done, an amp won't fix it.)

(Please direct account activation inquiries to 'admin')

Last edited by GroundUrMast; 25-Mar-2011 at 7:48 PM.
GroundUrMast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-Mar-2011, 1:33 AM   #11
John Candle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,697
Tv Antennas and Reception

I am providing information of how to do it with out using more tuners.
John Candle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-Mar-2011, 11:23 PM   #12
GroundUrMast
Moderator
 
GroundUrMast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Greater Seattle Area
Posts: 4,758
From thread 1504

Quote:
...but the only channel i have problems getting is 23.1 cw???

also city tv is fuzzy...
The next steps to try would be:
  1. Connect only the SE facing antenna. Then check to see if WNLO (real CH-32) is received.
  2. Connect only the NW facing antenna. Then check the reception of CITY (real CH-57).
If one or both problem channels are improved, you may need to reconsider the use of a reversed splitter. As I mentioned earlier, " In most situations, the result is less than hoped for." A/B switching is technically sound, and likely the least expensive option to consider next.
__________________
If the well is dry and you don't see rain on the horizon, you'll need to dig the hole deeper. (If the antenna can't get the job done, an amp won't fix it.)

(Please direct account activation inquiries to 'admin')

Last edited by GroundUrMast; 1-Apr-2011 at 9:57 PM.
GroundUrMast is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Go Back   TV Fool > Over The Air Services > Help With Reception


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 12:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © TV Fool, LLC