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Old 27-Feb-2013, 4:48 PM   #1
decoupe71
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Trying to pull in additional stations

Here is my report...

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...1ddac0b647d80a

I currently have the leaf antenna on one TV and can pull in several stations to the NE and I would like to get a couple of the stations from the NW (KSNT and WIBW). Do I need to upgrade to an outside antenna? Or, can I get away with getting an antenna booster? I don't really understand how to calculate the extra dB needed to acquire those stations.

Thanks for any help!
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Old 27-Feb-2013, 6:39 PM   #2
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Here is my report...

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...1ddac0b647d80a

I currently have the leaf antenna on one TV and can pull in several stations to the NE and I would like to get a couple of the stations from the NW (KSNT and WIBW). Do I need to upgrade to an outside antenna? Or, can I get away with getting an antenna booster? I don't really understand how to calculate the extra dB needed to acquire those stations.

Thanks for any help!
Andrew
What direction does the leaf point to? Have you tried different orientations, like facing it NE or NW? You'll have to rescan after a change. The leaf is a double bowtie design w/o a reflector (compared to a similar DB2 outdoor antenna). It would need to face East or West, meaning that the reverse side would face the opposite. Since it doesn't have a deflector, you may be able to obtain signal from both directions. Certainly can't hurt to try since you already have it. I'd try also aiming it right at KSNT 289 deg magnetic to see if you get it.

That said, a booster doesn't help in your case.

Your situation is that you want to pull in channels from two near opposite directions, with some terrain obstructions along the way, which presents its challenges.

An outdoor antenna will perform better, although trees, buildings, etc can impact signal. The double bowtie design of the leaf is not optimal for the VHF stations like WIBW. An antenna like the Antennas Direct C2-V-CJM with the reflector removed would be able to tune the VHF more reliably as well as tune from both directions. Without the reflector, you weaken the strength of the signals from one direction, which is a trade off. So it's not a slam dunk guarantee that it's gonna work.

See what others here might suggest to you as well.
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Old 28-Feb-2013, 12:46 AM   #3
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A Simple 2 antenna reception situation.

This 2 antenna set up provides flexibility of reception.

Above the Peak of the roof in such a manner that the roof and house are not blocking reception to the west and east.
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Install a Antenna Craft Y5-7-13 VHF high band channels 7 thru 13 antenna aimed at about 280 degree magnetic compass direction.

With the Y5-7-13 antenna aimed west the Topeka VHF Tv stations/channels will be received.

There are no current VHF stations/channels at Kansas City direction.

And if some VHF high band Tv stations do begin transmitting in the future in the Kansas City direction. Then the Y5-7-13 antenna will most likely receiving them because the Y5-7-13 antenna receives good at the back of the antenna.

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Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

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Also install a Antennas Direct , ClearStream 4 UHF antenna aimed at about 280 degree magnetic compass direction.

Remove the Reflector Screens from the CS4 antenna.

With the reflector screens removed from the CS4 antenna the CS4 will receive the Topeka and Kansas City UHF Digital Tv stations/channels.

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On the same antenna mast the , Y5-7-13 antenna is below the CS4 antenna.

Separate the antennas buy about 2 feet or so.

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Connect the Y5-7-13 antenna and CS4 antenna together with a UVSJ. UVSJ = UHF/VHF - Separator/Joiner.

Type the letters , uvsj , in the http://www.solidsignal.com , search box.

The Y5-7-13 antenna is connected to the VHF connection of the UVSJ.

The CS4 antenna is connected to the UHF connection of the UVSJ.

And the remaining connection of the UVSJ is.

For 1 Tv connected use No splitter. No amplifier.

For 2 Tv's connected use a simple common 2 way splitter. No amplifier.

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For outside coax connections it is best to use the coax that has the - Compression type connectors , not the old style connectors that are crimped on to the coax.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/909911.html , use the 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html, use the #4560 eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.

http://www.ronard.com.

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at solidsignal by typing the word ronard in the solidsignal search box or buy from ronard.

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Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. , http://www.solidsignal.com , http://www.amazon.com.

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As always , trees and tree leaves do a good job of , multipath/reflecting , absorbing , blocking , OTA = Over The Air , Digital Broadcast Tv reception and so do buildings and other obstructions including your own roof and house.

It is best to install the , Y5-7-13 antenna and CS4 antenna at a location that has little to no obstructions of any type or kind in the direcetions of reception including your own roof and house.

The Tv/s Must Channel Scan for the Digital Broadcast Tv stations/channels , often named the 'Air Channels' or '[Antenna Channels' in the Tv Setup Menu because the Tv transmissions travel through the Air from the transmitting antenna to the receiving antenna.

Some Digital Tv's will automatic channel scan for cable Tv channels.

DO NOT channel scan for cable Tv channels.

Go into the Tv Setup Menu and select , 'Air Channels' / 'Antenna Channels'.

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