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Old 2-Oct-2018, 12:46 PM   #1
klahmers
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I am going to try to cut the cord again. This is my map. It seems that I get better signal 5 ft off the ground than higher. Not sure why that is.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...9038abe5a17ce0

I seem to remember WSET on the a previous map but ABC doesn't seem to be close.

Thoughts for antenna on this apparently complex map?

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Old 2-Oct-2018, 1:20 PM   #2
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Since you have low band VHF for PBS, high band VHF for ABC and the rest use UHF, you will need an antenna like the Channel Master CM 3018.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Channel-...3018/203763043 You will want to stay as far away as
possible from trees and keep your cable, RG6, run as short as possible, Keep it simple, especially at first.
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Old 2-Oct-2018, 1:21 PM   #3
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Hello, klahmers

For reference, I see you have a previous thread:
Blacksburg,VA area recommendations
http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=14968

Thank you for the signal report.

What antenna are you using and where is it located?
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Old 2-Oct-2018, 1:49 PM   #4
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I seem to remember WSET on the a previous map but ABC doesn't seem to be close.

Thoughts for antenna on this apparently complex map?
WSET is still there, but it doesn't show on the TVFool report because they are using a defective database to generate reports.



A report from rabbitears.info shows WSET:



It is complex because your desired channels are on all three TV bands, in different directions, and have hills in the signal paths.
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Old 2-Oct-2018, 2:12 PM   #5
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Thanks for the replies and linking the old thread.

As in the past I am still using an RCA 1450. I got it just to prove to myself that I would be able to get some signal over the air which I did. I get WBRA(PBS) along with Ion and Fox.

My goal would be to get ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and PBS. We have satellite for internet, so streaming will be marginal but possible to supplement if we can't pull this off. I am blessed with open pasture and a south facing slope so that we have relatively clear site lines to 143, but there are trees 100 yards to the east which may be a problem for WSET. I may bite bullet, invest in an outdoor antenna and see what I can get. Will it be likely that I can get signal from 143 and 90 off the same antenna?

Should it be a something like the DB4e or would it require a bigger directional antenna.

I will focus on rabbitears since I that there was something closer than 108 miles.

Thanks again.

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Old 2-Oct-2018, 5:26 PM   #6
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I would get a 3-way combo (VHF-lo, VHF-hi, UHF) such as the HD8200XL point it at 90deg to get your ABC on 13 (WSET). Since PBS is a relatively strong signal, it should be able to receive it also. Hopefully it will also pull in the UHF stations at 143. If not, cheat the antenna toward 143 as far as you can while still getting ABC. If you can't split the difference to pull in the UHF channels, you could add a separate 8-bay (DB8e or HDB8X) or yagi (91XG or HDB91X) for UHF, and combine it using a UVSJ-pre-amp (Juice or RCA-TVPRAMP1R). The band selectivity of the preamp should filter out the UHF being received by the 8200 and only incorporate the UHF signal from the dedicated UHF antenna.
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Old 3-Oct-2018, 12:35 PM   #7
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So I should buy an 11 antenna?
I was hoping for something a little less prominent.
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Old 3-Oct-2018, 12:45 PM   #8
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That depends on how badly you want PBS on real Ch 3. There is a chance that 3 would come in on the VHF-hi elements of a smaller antenna such as the MCM-2476 aimed at WSET. Then you would need a separate UHF antenna for the rest of the channels at 143deg, as well as a UVSJ and maybe an amplifier. The Juice and RCA-TVPRAMP1R do both.

A roughly equivalent single-antenna solution might be the Winegard 7494P or 7498P, which has VHF-hi and UHF. The 7498 has more gain. Again, no guarantees on Ch 3 though, and you wouldn't get to aim both sets of elements at their intended locations , you'd need to split the difference.
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Old 5-Oct-2018, 4:02 PM   #9
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Thanks for the information. I start looking around.
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