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Old 11-Mar-2014, 6:24 PM   #1
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Northeast Wisconsin help in door county

Hey everyone thanks in advance for any help I recieve. Looking to ditch directv. Am going to get Netflix and amazon all that stuff but want to hopefully get antenna to still recieve local channels of course. I was thinking an RCA ANT751 or a clearstream 2-v long range but honestly I have no idea what to get. I'd like it to be somewhat small to not be an eye soar. Also hoping to just mount on existing directv mount and use that cable. Suggestions for a good antenna would be greatly appreciated or any advice on what I should do! Here's my map info
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Old 11-Mar-2014, 7:48 PM   #2
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The tvfool report is not showing any antenna height above ground.

Do not delete the tvfool report that is not showing any antenna height above ground.

To see if reception signal strengths improve with higher antenna height.

Please make and post a tvfool report with the antenna height at 25 feet above ground.

25 feet antenna height above ground is a Reference antenna height that provides a good evaluation of the Tv stations and channels that can be received.
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Old 13-Mar-2014, 4:21 AM   #3
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I believe this is what you need with 25 ft antenna height.

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Old 13-Mar-2014, 8:02 AM   #4
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Thinking that Tv antennas are eye sore and ugly and hiding Tv antennas is a good way to have less reception.


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A small improvement of signal strength at 25 feet.

The Digital Broadcast Tv Stations/Channels are , weak signal strength and Very weak signal strength at your reception location.

KACY-DT , Real UHF channel 27 , virtual number (32.1) , MyNetwork.

Is Very weak signal strength , of 5.9 NM(dB) , with 2 Edge Path Obstructions= hills and mountains in the reception path , and is in the Red reception zone.

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It is important to install the antenna Above the Peak of the Roof in such a manner that the reception is not , obstructed , impeded , blocked , buy the roof and building in the directions of reception.

The Group of Digital Broadcast Tv Transmitters are to the South West.

Recommend install a , http://www.channelmasterstore.com.

CM4228HD UHF/VHF antenna aimed at about 230 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna.

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Install a , http://www.antennacraft.net.

10G221 preamplifier.

Operate the 10G221 preamplifier in the single antenna mode.

Put the FM radio trap switch in the , in/on , position.

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For 1 Tv connected use No splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

Buy the , HFS-2D and HFS-3D , splitters at , http://www.hollandelectronics.com , or , http://www.amazon.com.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html.
Use the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html.
Use the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.
Measure around the chimney and use a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224) .

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at , http://www.ronard.com , or , http://www.amazon.com.

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As always , trees and tree leaves , plants and plant leaves , have a Negative Effect on Broadcast Tv Reception and so do buildings and other obstructions including your own roof and building.

Some and not all Negative Effects are.

Absorbing and Blocking Reception.

Multi-Path Reflecting Tv Signals Bouncing All Around.

The Best Practice for Reliable Reception is to install the antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in the direction of reception.

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Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. .

http://www.channelmasterstore.com.

http://www.amazon.com.

http://www.hollandelectronics.com.

http://www.ronard.com.

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Old 13-Mar-2014, 12:20 PM   #5
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I'd consider an HBU 44 or a HD 7698P with a preamp. With WLUK on real channel 11 you need a VHF/UHF combo antenna. The 4228 suggested is a UHF only design.
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Old 13-Mar-2014, 4:40 PM   #6
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The Channel Master , CM4228HD antenna is UHF band channels 14 thru 51 and VHF high band channels 7 thru 13 antenna.

http://www.channelmasterstore.com
shows that the CM4228HD antenna receives UHF channels 14 thru 51 and VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

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Here is Real World Test of the CM4228HD antenna.

http://www.antennahacks.com/Comparis...F_Shootout.htm
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Old 13-Mar-2014, 6:38 PM   #7
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The 4228 may have enough H-VHF performance to get the job done... But I'd opt for the Winegard or Antennacraft options if I was in the same situation.
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Old 13-Mar-2014, 6:52 PM   #8
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Thank you guys very much. I'm not so concerned about an eye soar just seems easier to install the ones I was looking into. As for the two I had mentioned, are they just not viable options? Also, which winegard and antennacraft options would you recommend? I'd rather not do this either if my reception would be marginal at best.
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Old 13-Mar-2014, 9:06 PM   #9
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The Winegard HD7698P antenna or Antenna Craft HBU44 antenna.

The reception will not be marginal.

If you use the antennas that are recommended here at your post.

Including the CM4228HD antenna.

The reception will be Ok.

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Old 14-Mar-2014, 12:47 AM   #10
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Hi Mianderson,

The antennas suggested will get the job done. As to the antennas you mentioned, no I wouldn't go with them. The ANT751 and the Clearstream2V are both fine performers in their proper application.

The problem you have is your signals are trending weak and have in many cases 2-edge obstructions. This in short means you don't have line of sight, so your signals you are trying for are having to go through geographical obstructions to get to you. This can make signals act funny and requires an antenna with good gain and directionality.

The RCA ANT751 will not work. That antenna is a local or suburban unit that does best with line of sight. If you don't have it, move up a notch. Weaker signals that are terrain obstructed is not something the ANT751 does well.

The Clearstream 2V would perform better than the ANT751 for your situation, however when you start getting into the signal strength in the teens for some of your signals like NBC, it may not be enough for reliable reception.

In short, you need a strong antenna that can offset the 2-edge conditions with good gain and is very sensitive. The mentioned more robust Winegard or Antennacraft high-VHF/UHF combos would be my suggestion as well.
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 3:18 AM   #11
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Thanks Stephanie. So this should be my last question. Which winegard and or Antennacraft antenna model do you guys recommend? Thanks again you guys are awesome!
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 3:22 AM   #12
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Oh! What do you guys think about the FL6550A FlatWave Air Outdoor Amplified HDTV Antenna? Says high vhf/uh and a 60 mile range?
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 4:44 AM   #13
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The HBU-44 & HD7698P would make my short list.

The FL6550A would not, it's not got the VHF performance you need... Nor does it have much real UHF performance. (An amplifier does not add to the initial signal gathering ability of an antenna.)
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 6:03 AM   #14
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Mianderson.

The antennas you are suggesting will provide the marginal reception you say you will like to avoid.

Putting a antenna in the attic will provide the marginal reception you say you will like to avoid.

Hiding Tv antennas will provide the marginal reception you say you will like to avoid.
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Old 14-Mar-2014, 8:54 AM   #15
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Re. the FL6550A; The claim of 60 mile reception is likely based on ideal conditions, a clear line of sight, no obstructions and no hills in the way. Your conditions are not ideal by that measure.

Your report strongly suggests that you have no risk of installing an antenna that's 'overkill'.
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