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Old 11-Oct-2018, 12:36 AM   #1
yomanwill
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Highland, MI Attic Mount Antenna

Looking for a recommendation.

Here is the report:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...903881fe918293

Will be mounted in the attic, lots of space so size is a non issue. Then a 50' run a TIVO Roamio DVR. I would prefer no active amp as running power up there might be tricky, but it is what it is.


As for price. Just give me the most robust one out there. With a savings of $50/mo the buy back will be on the order of months.


Been spending some time poking around the site. If the attic is a deal breaker it looks like the rear face of my house is facing the Detroit area so I wouldn't mind putting something off the side like the ANT751E near the peak of the gable. I want to stay away from a roof mount because of the wife approval factor...only so much you can do.

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Old 11-Oct-2018, 3:55 AM   #2
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Hello, yomanwill

I suggest a Winegard HD7694P antenna in the attic, aimed SE. How well it works will depend upon the signal loss from being in the attic, and any obstructions outside like trees or other buildings.

Make a test first with a temporary run of coax before drilling any holes.

If you need a preamp, it can be powered from down below through the same coax that brings the signals down to you.

If it doesn't work in the attic, then go with the gable mount.
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Old 11-Oct-2018, 12:21 PM   #3
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Thanks for your input, put it on order. Understood about local interference with objects. This type of thing can be an iterative process.

Should come in Sat. so I hope to report back results then, I want to get it up before all of the leaves fall off so come May not surprised.
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Old 11-Oct-2018, 6:21 PM   #4
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This is an extract from your report:



TVFool is using a defective database to generate reports, so there are some errors. Based on my estimate of your location, this report from rabbitears.info has a more accurate list of channels:



Because of UHF Repack by the FCC, there will be channel changes. For example, WXYZ will be moving from real channel 41 to 25:
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...&callsign=WXYZ

If WHNE is important to you, you will need a bigger antenna that covers VHF-Low channels, because it is moving from 20 to 3:
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...&callsign=WHNE

It is the real channel number (also called physical channel or RF channel) that determines what antenna is needed.

VHF-Low, real channels 2-6
VHF-High, real channels 7-13
UHF, real channels 14-51

The virtual channel number (like 5.1 or 5-1) is a holdover from the analog TV days to maintain the identity of the station, and is what the TV displays. By convention, the virtual channel number is given in the decimal form to keep it from being confused with the real channel number.

This is the Repack Plan for Detroit:
https://www.rabbitears.info/repackch...=&lss=&status=

WXYZ will be moving during Phase 8.
https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-in...ition-schedule

https://www.commlawcenter.com/2017/0...deadlines.html
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Old 11-Oct-2018, 6:59 PM   #5
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Did you know that one of the major distributors of antennas is right in your back yard? Solid Signal is located in Novi, MI.
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Old 11-Oct-2018, 10:00 PM   #6
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Did you know that one of the major distributors of antennas is right in your back yard? Solid Signal is located in Novi, MI.
Awesome tip! Thank you! I was able to cancel the Amazon order. Happy to support a local seller vs. pad Bezos pay check.

@rabbit73 thanks for the updated report. The one I really want to get in (but concerned about) is Fox as that would give complete coverage of the big broadcasters. The ABC/NBC/CBS/PBS all look like "sure things"
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Old 12-Oct-2018, 11:09 PM   #7
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I suggest the Winegrud 8200U lol
Or a King Jack ?
Or maybe Channel master outdoor tv antennas??
Ps if using an outdoor tv antenna inside I suggest you use a channel master 7777,AMP??
Well good luck with your antenna set-up!!

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Old 13-Oct-2018, 11:40 PM   #8
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Don't know if it works yet. Got the antenna mounted (Winegard HD7694P) and hooked up the amp (Winegard Boost XT) and got the cable ran (RJ6), but didn't have any ends.

Not going to win cleanest install award:
https://imgur.com/4M4T4LJ

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Old 16-Oct-2018, 12:16 AM   #9
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Welp no dice in the attic. Pulled in a number of channels, but between medium to weak. WJBK went out when the wind blew. Going to have to mount outside.
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Old 16-Oct-2018, 1:32 AM   #10
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WJBK went out when the wind blew.
Sorry to hear you are having a problem.

That is a symptom of trees in the signal path.
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Old 16-Oct-2018, 2:21 AM   #11
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You don't know till you try. We have a have trees surrounding us, most just on the lot lines. The oak wilt hasn't got them yet.

Will moving to a gable mount outside help OR should I do some fine tuning with the setup I have?

Now that the rain/wind has died down the signals are "medium", Samsung TV has a level bar hard to give a exact number.
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Old 20-Oct-2018, 8:28 PM   #12
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Massive success. We had a nice bit of rain/wind come though WJBK dropped down 40%. Now that it has passed 100% signal. I'd say moving from the attic to open air easily made a 50% improvement.

https://imgur.com/a/H4umNkQ
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Old 20-Oct-2018, 11:35 PM   #13
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Thanks for the report of improved reception and the nice photo.





Good job!
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Old 21-Oct-2018, 2:25 AM   #14
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@rabbit73 You are welcome! Thanks for the advice / guidance!
@Tower73 - thanks for the tip on solid signal, they were super helpful on the phone and I was able to pick up everything same day
@Nascarken thanks for the other options
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