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Old 23-Oct-2014, 11:52 AM   #1
squale2
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Antenna Help in Phillipston MA

Hi, I have zero experience dealing with antenna usage or installation. But I am trying to rid myself of cable/satellite tv. What I am looking for is some help on what type of setup would be best or if it is even worthwhile to invest in an antenna because of my location.
Are there experts that can install an antenna or is it something that a novice can attempt?

I have 3 to 4 TV's's that I would like to have connected. Below is the TV signal analysis I received. Please help me with this - thanks

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Old 23-Oct-2014, 1:05 PM   #2
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You can install an antenna yourself. Roof mounting is the way to go, placing the antenna as high as possible. Can you go any higher? For example, you can put a 10' mast in a 10' tripod (maybe with guy wires) and get roughly 20' above your roof peak. Can you post a new plot for a greater height? 25' is about the roof peak for most houses here.

A much higher stand-alone tower is also an option, if you have the land and the budget. If you are really rural, this might be an option.

Here is some installation discussion that may help you: http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=901 You can look here for examples of the kind of roof mounts that are available: http://www.antennapartsoutlet.com/

There are also installers available. Look at the top of the forum for a link where you can connect with an installer.

The group of stations to your southwest are from Hartford (WTIC) and Springfield (WGBY). The alternative to that group is to try for the Boston stations (WGBH 122 magnetic). It would be interesting to see which stations become stronger as you go higher.

There are other markets (Providence, NH cities) which you might pick up, but they are so widely spread out they may not be worthwhile.

Based on this, I'd probably suggest a roof mounted Antennas Direct DB8e https://www.antennasdirect.com/store...V-Antenna.html pointed southwest at Hartford and Springfield. You can aim the panels separately, and you can experiment with spreading the panels a little.

You can look up the transmitter details on the FCC web site http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=wtic - just type in the call sign and it will tell you what city the station services.

Just a comment - I took my report and made a spreadsheet from the call sign, real channel, virtual channel, broadcast band, market, programming, NM, and magnetic direction. It was very helpful to sort the channels by band and magnetic direction. I could also discard the channels I was clearly not interested in (Spanish, evangelical, shopping, low power translator - lots of those). Then I could better see which directions were likely to collect the channels that I wanted.

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Old 25-Jan-2019, 6:28 PM   #3
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I'm here in Phillipston Ma - what would cause my antenna to lose total signal to all channels and then later in the day it comes back. This all of sudden started happening over and over throughout the day. Is this a tower problem or maybe something to do with my antenna. How can I troubleshoot??? any help would be appreciated
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Old 25-Jan-2019, 9:23 PM   #4
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I'm here in Phillipston Ma - what would cause my antenna to lose total signal to all channels and then later in the day it comes back. This all of sudden started happening over and over throughout the day. Is this a tower problem or maybe something to do with my antenna. How can I troubleshoot??? any help would be appreciated
Hello, squale2, welcome to the forum.

Please do another signal report. When I click on your link, it says your report is no longer on the TVFool server.

The total loss of signals that later come back can be caused by atmospheric conditions that result in temperature changes.

What antenna are you using now and where is it located?

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I have 3 to 4 TV's's that I would like to have connected.
First, get the channels you want for just one TV, then you can split the signals for other TVs. What channels are most important to you?

When I do a generic report for Phillipston MA, I see weak channels, but your exact address (which will not show) report would be more accurate.
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The group of stations to your southwest are from Hartford (WTIC) and Springfield (WGBY). The alternative to that group is to try for the Boston stations (WGBH 122 magnetic). It would be interesting to see which stations become stronger as you go higher.
Here is a report from rabbitears.info with a more accurate list of channels that shows the two directions close in strength. I favor the SW unless you have local objects in the signal path like trees:

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Old 26-Jan-2019, 3:20 PM   #5
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Three possible causes come to mind.
1. Water (ice) in the coax.
2. Failing preamp.
3. Interference.
Troubleshoot the problem by ruling out the possible problems one at a time.

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Old 28-Jan-2019, 4:38 PM   #6
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Old 28-Jan-2019, 8:02 PM   #7
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The question here is why did reception stop.

The CM-3011HD might get WUTF, but should not pick up anything else.
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Old 30-Jan-2019, 11:20 PM   #8
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2. Failing preamp. - seems that was the problem - purchased a CM7777HD and everything works great - used the high gain and all the signal strengths increased. Thanks for the help
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Old 31-Jan-2019, 4:23 AM   #9
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2. Failing preamp. - seems that was the problem - purchased a CM7777HD and everything works great - used the high gain and all the signal strengths increased. Thanks for the help
Thanks for the update; good detective work!
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