TV Fool  

Go Back   TV Fool > Over The Air Services > Help With Reception

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2-Jan-2015, 5:39 PM   #1
Speedy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 4
Antenna suggestions, not too hard, not too easy

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...d243ce2e8ba4e7

That's the map link. I'm up on a hill, antenna is in the attic and unfortunately firing south, back into the hillside a bit. Not much, just grazing the top and then probably pretty clear sight to Philly. Probably 60' of cable from antenna to Tivo.

I have tried a Winegard 6010 that I had in stock for FM needs and that actually did OK. All channels came in, but with bad breakup. Obviously just beyond the limit. Next I tried an Esky HG-981. It was a piece of junk to be sure but it is working remarkably well. A bit of break up in bad weather, but the biggest issue is I lost channel 6.1 (I'm confused about that, I thought it was all supposed to be UHF now). The internal line amp helped a bit I'm sure. The only other channel snafu is I'm grabbing 29 on it's alternate local channel frequency of 38, but Tivo has no channel info for that channel. Not a big deal.

Looking next at Winegard HD7694P but the boom length is going kill my attic storage. Would prefer to stay at about 60" boom length.

So any thoughts? Honestly it's good enough now that I could just leave it and give up Channel 6. I'm not a fan of the Esky though. It's got a 100' of coax permanently attached, is cheap and I'm not using the rotation of it at all. Would prefer something a bit bigger and with a normal setup that I can attach my own coax too and insert a quality line amp if needed.

Thanks in advance!

Last edited by Speedy; 2-Jan-2015 at 5:45 PM.
Speedy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2-Jan-2015, 6:06 PM   #2
rickbb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 319
If your handy you could build a DB4 using one of McClapp's designs. Mine works better than I could have ever expected. I've read that people with them in attics do very well with them. (Mine is roof top.)

http://m4antenna.eastmasonvilleweather.com/
rickbb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3-Jan-2015, 1:43 AM   #3
ADTech
Antennas Direct Tech Supp
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,932
Quote:
(I'm confused about that, I thought it was all supposed to be UHF now).
Nope, that was never the plan. That's one of those urban myths that won't die.

You have VHF channels 6 & 12, then everything else is on UHF. If you make the antenna suggested, you will probably forgo one or both of them.

Do NOT use an amplifier, most will likely overload as you have several stations less than 4 miles away.
__________________
Antennas Direct Tech Support

For support and recommendations regarding our products, please contact us directly at https://www.antennasdirect.com/customer-service.html

Sorry, I'm not a mod and cannot assist with your site registration.
ADTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3-Jan-2015, 1:18 PM   #4
Speedy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADTech View Post
Nope, that was never the plan. That's one of those urban myths that won't die.

.
Ahh, like plasma leaking out of the TVs......

If I'm understanding that DIY thread it's a vertical bowtie rather than a horizontal directional Yagi. Interesting.

Channel 12 is a non issue. I will also forego channel 6 if needed. We just aren't serial TV watchers. Lots of Netflix and DVDs, but not much broadcast.
Speedy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3-Jan-2015, 1:40 PM   #5
ADTech
Antennas Direct Tech Supp
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,932
You could use either a vertical 4-bay bowtie style or a UHF Yagi. Examples from our product lineup would be the DB4e and the 42XG respectively.

Be prepared to try alternate mounting locations within your attic. Signals will not be uniform throughout it and patience will be a virtue.
__________________
Antennas Direct Tech Support

For support and recommendations regarding our products, please contact us directly at https://www.antennasdirect.com/customer-service.html

Sorry, I'm not a mod and cannot assist with your site registration.
ADTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3-Jan-2015, 5:05 PM   #6
Speedy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 4
OK. That's a tough call. The bowtie could go against the far wall of the attic, which faces due south, and take up no space. But if I have to come off that wall, then the yagi would actually be more maneuverable to different places in the attic. I'd also be tempted to use a couple DIY wires and a combiner to try and grab channel 6 just to have it. I am completely willing to forego channel 6, but I'm also a stubborn SOB that doesn't like to give up
Speedy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4-Jan-2015, 11:58 PM   #7
Speedy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 4
So today, channel 29 on either frequency is unwatchable. Heavy fog and light rain. Definitely need more gain.
Speedy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6-Jan-2015, 5:48 AM   #8
GroundUrMast
Moderator
 
GroundUrMast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Greater Seattle Area
Posts: 4,766
Attics can be acceptable antenna mounting locations if you're lucky. They can be horrible black holes also.

Consider testing reception outdoors. You'll avoid the signal attenuation of the roof deck and/or walls as well as reduce the amount of electronic noise generated by the various electrically power equipment in the home.
__________________
If the well is dry and you don't see rain on the horizon, you'll need to dig the hole deeper. (If the antenna can't get the job done, an amp won't fix it.)

(Please direct account activation inquiries to 'admin')
GroundUrMast is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Go Back   TV Fool > Over The Air Services > Help With Reception


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 9:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © TV Fool, LLC