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Old 2-Jun-2012, 8:07 PM   #1
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I guess my question is do I get a 4 or 8 Bay UHF Antenna and hope to get the high VHF station in New Haven or do get a seperate VHF Antenna for the VHF station. Third option is a combo UHF-VHF antenna.


I don't really want to go the rotor route, though that would allow me to get the stations in Hartford, New Haven and Springfield. The Springfield stations are not mandatory though.
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Old 2-Jun-2012, 10:03 PM   #2
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The Antennas Direct ClearStream2 Complete is a good fit here. Facing about 255° as a beginning aim point, you'll see the Hartford, New Haven and some Springfield stations.
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Old 2-Jun-2012, 10:05 PM   #3
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I would use the four bay. It has a wider beamwidth and aimed to 292 degrees magnetic it should play all of the strong stations from 245-346 magnetic, including channel 11. The 8 bay and most U/V combos have a narrow beamwidth and won't do as well with the 345-346 degree spread.

Do not use a pre-amplifier. If you have more than three or four sets you may need a distribution amplifier.
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Old 2-Jun-2012, 11:04 PM   #4
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This recommendation is based on the Current Plus Pending Applications Included reception of Digital Tv channels and Analog Tv channels.

Because of a unusual combination of channels in All Directions in All Three of the Tv bands.

VHF low band channels 2 thru 6.

VHF high band channels 7 thru 13.

UHF channel 14 thru 51.

For reception in all directions in the , green , yellow and red reception zones down to WRGB channel 6 CBS and This Tv.

I am recommending a unusual combination of antennas.
Installed Above the roof of the house.

Above the roof install and aim a Winegard YA6260 VHF low band antenna at about 350 degree magnetic compass , for the reception of Digital channel WRGB and WVBK-CA Analog channel 2 Vermont Outside Television.
Here is how to aim the YA6260 antenna , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

And also above the roof install 2 Winegard MS1000 antennas.

One for the reception of the VHF high band channels of 7 thru 13.

And a second one for the reception of all the UHF channels.

The three antennas will be connected together on to one coax with a Winegard AP2870 preamp and HLSJ.

HLSJ =VHF high band and VHF low band Separator Joiner.
Connect the YA6260 to the VHF low port and a MS1000 to the VHF high port.
The other port of the HLSJ is connected to VHF input of the AP2870 preamp.

The second MS1000 is connected to the UHF input of the AP2870 preamp.

This setup combines all antennas on to one coax.

All antennas are installed above the roof.

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Old 2-Jun-2012, 11:43 PM   #5
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The Clear Stream 2 will Not receive WRGB channel 6 and WVBK channel 2 and will not receive some of the tv stations in other directions in the , green , yellow , and red reception zones.

A 4 bay antenna has a even narrower beam width then the clear stream 2 so will receive even less in other directions.
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Old 2-Jun-2012, 11:55 PM   #6
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The Tv/s Must Scan for the Broadcast Tv Channels sometimes named the 'Air Channels' or 'Antenna Channels' in the Tv setup menu because the Tv transmissions travel through the air from the transmittng antenna to the receiving antenna.

Do Not scan for cable tv channels.
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Old 3-Jun-2012, 2:07 AM   #7
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Thanks for the responses.

Since I have stations in 3 distinct locations would I really be better off with an Antenna like a Winegard HD-7696P and a rotator? I know I said I would prefer not to have a rotator but if it makes the most sense then so be it.
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Old 3-Jun-2012, 5:01 AM   #8
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Antenna rotators Are Not channel surfing friendly , must wait for antenna to rotate.

->->->->For reception All The Way Around The Compass with out the reception of WRGB and WVBK.
Install a Winegard MS2002 amplified antenna above the roof. <-<-<-<-
->->->->The MS2002 receives all directions , no rotor required.<-<-<-<-

And if you choose you can add the YA6260 as a SEPARATE Antenna system.

The MS2002 and YA6260 Will Not be combined on to the same coax.

The 2 Separate systems will be separate all the way to the location/s of the Tv/s and a remote control A/B switch will be at each Tv location to switch from one antenna to the other. http://www.radioshack.com , #15-1968 , or , http://www.mcmelectronics.com , #32-4425.

A/B switches Are channel surfing friendly.
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Old 3-Jun-2012, 11:08 AM   #9
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The 7696 antenna and a rotor will allow for reception of the channels without making your home looking like a cable head end, not to mention the expense.

The Channel Master rotor is very reliable and accurate. It is remote control operated. If you use it, I would do an on the ground test run before you install, leaving it at the end of rotation and the display on 000. Then install with the antenna headed magnetic North. This will allow you to aim to the desired locations by using your TV Fool radar report to aim your antanna. After you install with exact locations located and stored, you may find a sweet spot that will allow for some grouping of locations.
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The HD7696P is designed for reception of channels , 7 thru 13 and 14 thru 69.

Not 2 thru 6.
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Old 3-Jun-2012, 2:20 PM   #11
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The Clear Stream 2 will Not receive WRGB channel 6 and WVBK channel 2
This is true, but I doubt even the largest full band antenna would either.

Channel 2 -a measly 2500 watts @ 84 miles away- No way
Channel 6 @ 99 miles away- Please
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Old 3-Jun-2012, 4:17 PM   #12
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I think I will try a 4 bay aimed towards southwest and see if I can get the WTNH in New Haven. It seems to be the cheapest way to start. If it doesn't work then I may consider a rotor with the HD 7696 or go with a dedicated VHF antenna in conjunction with the 4 bay.
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Old 3-Jun-2012, 5:03 PM   #13
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Good choice.

You will be very happy with the results.

Later if you want to expand, add a Egal Aspen Roto 100. This rotor will operate thru your coax. A very easy and economical up-grade.

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