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BigLou80 22-Apr-2019 2:30 AM

Looking for ideas
 
I am looking for ideas on why I am not getting WTIC on the attached TV fool report. It would seem like there is plenty of signal to receive it without a preamp which I eliminated due to suspected over amplification on wggb and WGBY which are less than 4 miles away.

The new clear stream 2v max is pointed as close to 215 magnetic as I could get

On a side note I'd be happy to hear anyone's thoughts on getting channel 10 listed on the report

BigLou80 22-Apr-2019 10:44 AM

since the image never uploaded from my phone
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http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...903857de89ba45

rabbit73 22-Apr-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigLou80 (Post 61401)
I am looking for ideas on why I am not getting WTIC on the attached TV fool report. It would seem like there is plenty of signal to receive it without a preamp which I eliminated due to suspected over amplification on wggb and WGBY which are less than 4 miles away.

Hello, BigLou80; welcome to the forum.

Thank you for the link to your signal report.

Yes, WGGB and WGBY are strong enough to cause overload; you can't use a preamp.

WTIC is moving from real channel 31 to channel 34 during Phase 4 of FCC Repack, 6/22/2019 to 8/2/2019
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...&callsign=WTIC

Repack Plan
https://www.rabbitears.info/repackch...=&lss=&status=

https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-in...ition-schedule

It is possible that they are running at reduced power because of antenna work; they do have temporary authorization for that:
https://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?...tems&facid=147

You could call the WTIC station engineer and ask him.
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On a side note I'd be happy to hear anyone's thoughts on getting channel 10 listed on the report
What is the callsign, WTNH?

TVFool is using a defective database to generate reports. A report from rabbitears.info should have a more accurate list of channels:

https://forum.tvfool.com/attachment....6&d=1555933400

ADTech 22-Apr-2019 2:04 PM

Depends on which "channel 10" you're looking for. There's a faulty entry for a virtual channel 10.1 on your report (WHTX-LD, correct virtual channel is 43.1) and a real channel 10 (WTNH/WCTX, virtual channel 8.x/59.x) which is likely not receivable at your location without extraordinary effort.


WTIC is currently operating at reduced power from an auxiliary antenna lower down on their tower while the main antennas up top are being replaced/rebuilt. This will cause a marked reduction in their coverage area.

BigLou80 22-Apr-2019 3:18 PM

Thanks for the info in wtic operating at reduced power. That would explain why it suddenly went missing. I will just wait and see

Tower Guy 22-Apr-2019 4:10 PM

For all those like me who want to see it for real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNBQe_ZOm8

rabbit73 22-Apr-2019 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tower Guy (Post 61406)
For all those like me who want to see it for real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNBQe_ZOm8

Neat!

Thank you.

How much RF exposure can the workers tolerate without harm?

Tower Guy 22-Apr-2019 9:37 PM

Exposure to high RF fields causes warming of the body, just like being in a microwave oven. In this case the stations are operating at about 25% power in a temporary antenna that is 164’ lower on the tower. The workers are exposed to high RF as they climb past the temporary side-mount antenna. The side mount antenna is directional, with reduced power toward the elevator. There are five ways to stay safe; ride the elevator past the antenna quickly without stopping, equip the elevator with a faraday shield to reduce the signal inside the elevator, wear an RF suit that shields the body from the RF, ride up the rigging cable passing the antenna quickly, and/or temporarily lower the power of the transmitter.

BigLou80 22-Apr-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tower Guy (Post 61406)
For all those like me who want to see it for real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNBQe_ZOm8

Brings new meaning to the words "changing the channel"

rabbit73 22-Apr-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tower Guy (Post 61408)
Exposure to high RF fields causes warming of the body, just like being in a microwave oven.

Thank you for the details. I felt the warming when I was too close to my 14 MHz mobile antenna at 100W.

BigLou80 22-Apr-2019 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 61403)
Hello, BigLou80; welcome to the forum.

Thank you for the link to your signal report.

Yes, WGGB and WGBY are strong enough to cause overload; you can't use a preamp.

WTIC is moving from real channel 31 to channel 34 during Phase 4 of FCC Repack, 6/22/2019 to 8/2/2019
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...&callsign=WTIC

Repack Plan
https://www.rabbitears.info/repackch...=&lss=&status=

https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-in...ition-schedule

It is possible that they are running at reduced power because of antenna work; they do have temporary authorization for that:
https://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?...tems&facid=147

You could call the WTIC station engineer and ask him.
What is the callsign, WTNH?

TVFool is using a defective database to generate reports. A report from rabbitears.info should have a more accurate list of channels:

https://forum.tvfool.com/attachment....6&d=1555933400

I finally had some time to check out rabbitears.info . That site has a much more useful way of presenting the data and will be my go to from now on

Tower Guy 23-Apr-2019 1:32 AM

I like the post repack search feature on rabbitears.info.

rabbit73 24-Apr-2019 8:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tower Guy (Post 61408)
Exposure to high RF fields causes warming of the body, just like being in a microwave oven. In this case the stations are operating at about 25% power in a temporary antenna that is 164’ lower on the tower.

Another interesting tower story:

TVTechnology
It’s the Repack—Scoot Over!
A look at a repack project from a TV engineer's perspective.
By John Marcon
Apr 22, 2019
https://www.tvtechnology.com/repack/...ack-scoot-over

Tower Guy 24-Apr-2019 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 61413)
Another interesting tower story:
TVTechnology

👍

Very good insight.


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