How do I get my CS2V Antenna set right?
ClearStream™ 2V Long Range UHF/VHF Antenna
I hooked it up an so far it seems to be going. With some minor tweaks it should be perfect. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...f1f07f5dca1c7d With my last channel scan it found the following channels. 6-1 CBS / WRGB 6-2 ThisTV 10-1 ABC / WTEN 10-2 WTEN Weather 10-3 Lving Well Network 13-1 NBC / WNYT (13-1 double) 13-2 ME-TV (13-2 double) 13-3 WNYT Weather (13-3 double) 14-1 Youtoo America **pixeled** 14-2 PBJ **pixeled** 14-3 TUFF TV **pixeled** 14-4 France 24 **pixeled** 14-5 REV'N **pixeled** 14-6 LATV **pixeled** 14-7 Retro TV **pixeled** 14-8 Guide Channel ? **pixeled** 15 ? **analog** 15-1 ? 17-1 PBS / WMHT 17-2 Create 17-3 PBS World 23-1 FOX 23-2 OTB 45-1 CW 45-2 GritTV 45-3 CBS / WRGB 51-1 MyTV 4 / WNYA 51-2 Antenna TV 55-1 ION 55-2 Qubo 55-3 ION Life 55-4 Shop 55-5 QVC 55-6 HSN I'm happy with the current selection I'm getting. Channels 14-1 through 14-8 are coming in pixeled. What would be the best way(s) to get them to come in clear? Channels 15 & 15-1 both come in fuzzy or pixeled. From what I can tell they are two different channels. Before I worry about trying to get a better signal for them, what are they? Thx, :) |
You didn't indicate where the antenna is mounted, where it's aimed towards, what your distribution system consists of, and it appears your TVFool plot may or may not be accurately located due to an inaccurate Google look-up of your address.
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You'd have to aim the antenna down the river valley to improve that station's reception, a move that will likely have an adverse effect on the reception of other stations. This is in Tower Guy's back yard. Perhaps he can fill in some details. |
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Overall what would be the best way to receive all 34 channels? My antenna wants to receive them, but how? Would a signal booster help? When I did the first couple of scans after I hooked it up it found them all right away. That channel line up would be prefect, allowing me to cut that cable cord. :) **Update** With a chat with reps at AntennasDirect & Crutchfield it seems I may need an Amplifier. Would any of these work for me? Which one would be my best choice? Any others cheaper I could try? What about RadioShack? Do they have any? https://www.antennasdirect.com/store...AMPLIFIER.html ClearStream™ In-Line Amplifier $19.99 https://www.antennasdirect.com/store/JUICE.html JUICE Amplifier System http://www.crutchfield.com/p_6593410...0.html?tp=6341 Channel Master 3410 Single-output RF distribution amplifier |
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That sorta makes sense.
___________________________________________________ From what I can determine, I need an amplifier. Are any of these good for my indoors mounted antenna? ClearStream™ In-Line Amplifier JUICE Amplifier System Channel Master 3410 Single-output RF distribution amplifier Which should I go with? Are there any others I should consider? |
You don't need an amplifier, they won't magically correct other errors or oversights. You need a larger antenna outside, up in the air with a clear signal path, and correctly aimed to have a better shot at picking up those weak or off-axis signals. Currently, you have a medium/small antenna indoors which is incorrectly aimed.
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How should I aim it? I'm limited to only south facing windows. |
You indicated earlier that the antenna was aimed SE. It needs to be aimed SW.
If your location and your circumstances prevent your taking the actions needed to improve the reception of signals which might be receivable if those actions were to be taken, then you won't be expected to receive those signals. |
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With my antenna pointed in it's current location I have trouble with the following channels. I've done rescans many times. :( 6-1 CBS / WRGB **Antenna doesn't find it, but did on first scan** 6-2 ThisTV **Antenna doesn't find it, but did on first scan** 6-3 WRGB Weather **Antenna doesn't find it, but did on first scan** 14-1 Youtoo America **pixeled** 14-2 PBJ **pixeled** 14-3 TUFF TV **pixeled** 14-4 France 24 **pixeled** 14-5 REV'N **pixeled** 14-6 Retro TV **pixeled** Pixeled channels are not much worse than this. They stutter, but audio and video does come in. http://i59.tinypic.com/33k8ynb.jpg My only window(s) I can use are facing South. I'm not putting the antenna in my only West facing window. FYI it's in the bathroom. lol What are my options? Amplifier, preamp, new coax, etc? My antenna can find the channels, it needs help holding them. |
There are no magic beans that will allow you to get the golden egg.
The formula for reliable reception is fundamentally very simple: The right antenna installed in the right place will allow you to receive the stations that are expected. Given your constraints, I have no expectation that you will get reliable reception of either of those low power stations. WRGB is a separate case. It operates on channel 6, down in a part of the spectrum that a) requires a long antenna, about 6' wide, for effective reception and b) is severely polluted with indoor electrical noise plus FM radio signals. If you started getting WYBN-LD with the antenna pointed in the "wrong" direction, then your direct signal path is probably blocked and you're catching a reflected signal off something nearby. Such reception cannot be predicted, all you can do is experiment and see what you can get. If you want to try an amp, run down to your nearest Walmart store and pick up an RCA indoor amp (1450-something) for less than $20 and give it a try. If it helps, great. If it doesn't help. return it for a refund. |
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What would be the best to worst of the lot? Should I avoid anyone of them? How about the price ranges? What would be a fair price for each one? Alphaline™ Super Low Noise Amplifier SEA-100 Winegard LNA-100 Boost Ultra Low Noise TV Antenna Amplifier Winegard LNA100S Boost Amplifier 1Byone HDTV Antenna Booster/Amplifier ClearStream™ In-Line Amplifier Digiwave ANT1005 is Digital HDTV Off Air Amplifier Solid Signal 20dB HDTV Antenna Amp w/ Pure Signal Technology(PURE20) RCA AMP1450R RCA AMP1450F Is there any major differences between any of these? |
The two basic specs are noise figure and gain. Noise figure is the degradation in signal-to-noise ratio in dB due to amplification. Typically the lower the noise figure, the moe expensive the electronics are. Gain is the increase in amplitude of a given signal input in dB. Solid Signal has an article you can read - http://www.solidsignal.com/p/?p=3561
You can compare the specs and share them with us. Perhaps buy a few of the ones that best fit your needs and give them a try. Or if you just want to try an amplifier without more effort, ADTech gave you an excellent suggestion for testing the utility (or futility) of adding an amplifier. |
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All of the models except four are discontinued and two of those listings are either incorrect (PA18) or incomplete (RCA). |
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Your problem is that you have an antenna that's not designed for WRGB, in a poor location, aimed the wrong direction, and perhaps unrealistic expectations. |
Ok so I was able to pickup the following at my local Walmart.
RCA Digital Signal Amplifier RCA RG-6 Digital Coax GE Quad Shield RG6 Coax x2 I was able to get Channel 6-1, 6-2 :) But 6-3 isn't showing. No problem with that, I'm not a fan of that weather crew anyways. As for Channel 14, my results were so/so. 14-1 Youtoo America 14-2 PBJ 14-3 TUFF TV 14-4 France 24 *14-7 Retro TV On a scale of :( 1 to 5 :) Before the changes they were a 2, but now a 3. A slight improvement, but it's a battle to align my antenna just right to keep them all. I'll have a Winegard LNA-100 Amplifier soon. Would that offer me better results than I already got? If not than I'll miss not having Retro TV. :( It's been at least two years since I last seen it. |
I anticipate you will loose reception with the LNA100 due to tuner overload. There are reasons I didn't suggest that one including its high gain and ineffective FM trap.
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The results sucked. It didn't do nothing for ch6 & ch14. While it did manage to mess up FOX 23-1. :( So it looks like I'm sticking to the RCA Digital Signal Amplifier. I'll just have to keep making antenna adjustments to get the results I want. (Both Ch6 & 14) If not, something that will be good enough. (Ch6) |
Well I decided to be happy with this OTA channel lineup. :)
6-1 CBS / WRGB 6-2 ThisTV 8-1 Youtoo America 10-1 ABC / WTEN 10-2 WTEN Weather 10-3 Lving Well Network 13-1 NBC / WNYT 13-2 ME-TV 13-3 WNYT Weather 15 AMGTV 15-1 AMGTV 17-1 PBS / WMHT 17-2 Create 17-3 PBS World 23-1 FOX 23-2 OTB 45-1 CW 45-2 GritTV 45-3 CBS / WRGB 51-1 MyTV 4 / WNYA 51-2 Antenna TV 55-1 ION 55-2 Qubo 55-3 ION Life 55-4 Shop 55-5 QVC 55-6 HSN PBJ, TUFF TV, Retro TV would have been a great addition. But I can't pull it in quite well enough where I live. :( Maybe if/when I ever move, or if they switch affiliates. |
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