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rabbit73 22-Jun-2018 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 59929)
This is all news to me, when is it supposed to happen?

The FCC took away UHF channels 38 to 51 from TV broadcasters and gave them to the cellular companies. The TV stations had the choice of moving to a different UHF channel (14 to 36), a VHF-High channel (7 to 13), a VHF-Low channel (2-6), or going off the air. They did get paid to do it, but they weren't happy that the cellular companies had taken their channels.

The Rochester channels will change during the period of 6/22/2019 to 8/2/2019

rabbit73 22-Jun-2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 59929)
Not quite getting that last image. Where is Rochester and/or the transmitter? :confused:

The transmitter is at the center of the pattern:

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...1&d=1529706414

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...2&d=1529707158

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...3&d=1529709326

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...4&d=1529709349

Dagwood 22-Jun-2018 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 59930)
The FCC took away UHF channels 38 to 51 from TV broadcasters and gave them to the cellular companies. The TV stations had the choice of moving to a different UHF channel (14 to 36), a VHF-High channel (7 to 13), a VHF-Low channel (2-6), or going off the air. They did get paid to do it, but they weren't happy that the cellular companies had taken their channels.

The Rochester channels will change during the period of 6/22/2019 to 8/2/2019

Wow, no kidding. This is the first I've heard of it.

I do see that it is a year away, so that's probably why I've heard nothing on TV about it yet.

Will any of this make any of my channels better or worse?

rabbit73 22-Jun-2018 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 59932)
Wow, no kidding. This is the first I've heard of it.

I do see that it is a year away, so that's probably why I've heard nothing on TV about it yet.

You can read about Repack here:
https://www.nab.org/repacking/

https://www.antennaweb.org/Info/FccRepackInfo

https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-in...ntive-auctions

Quote:

Will any of this make any of my channels better or worse?
Too soon to know; time will tell.

I don't see any proposed changes for WUHF Fox:
https://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?...tems&facid=413

It looks like WROC CBS will be sending less power in your direction on channel 21:
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...&callsign=WROC
click on Technical Data

https://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?...ms&facid=73964

If you send me the exact coordinates of your antenna in a PM (Private Message), I can draw a terrain profile for the signal paths.

Dagwood 23-Jun-2018 1:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 59933)
You can read about Repack here:
https://www.nab.org/repacking/

https://www.antennaweb.org/Info/FccRepackInfo

https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-in...ntive-auctions



Too soon to know; time will tell.

I don't see any proposed changes for WUHF Fox:
https://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?...tems&facid=413

It looks like WROC CBS will be sending less power in your direction on channel 21:
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.p...&callsign=WROC
click on Technical Data

https://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?...ms&facid=73964

If you send me the exact coordinates of your antenna in a PM (Private Message), I can draw a terrain profile for the signal paths.

How do I do that? :confused:

Nascarken 23-Jun-2018 4:33 PM

Hello there Rabbit sounds like someone is maybe turning off a light switch that is
Powering up the amp??funny thing just like that can happen to maybe his wife
Wonted him too go to bed.lol!!

rabbit73 24-Jun-2018 2:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwood (Post 59934)
How do I do that? :confused:

Correct me if I am wrong, but I assume you know how to send the coordinates to me in a PM (a forum Private Message) to me, so you must mean how to determine the coordinates of your antenna.

If you don't have a GPS, you can use the TVFool Interactive map browser.

http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=90

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...1&d=1529810208

Once you have found your home, you can move the teardrop indicator to the location of the antenna by drag-and-drop. As you move the teardrop, the coordinates below the map will follow.

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...8&d=1529808647

Move the white fist to the base of the teardrop until the index finger points to the base of the teardrop.
Left click the mouse and hold it down.
Move the indicator to the antenna location and release the left click.
The coordinates of the antenna will be below the map; copy and paste them.

Dagwood 24-Jun-2018 3:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 59947)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I assume you know how to send a PM (a forum Private Message) to me, so you must mean how to determine the coordinates of your antenna.

If you don't have a GPS, you can use the TVFool Interactive map browser.

http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=90

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...7&d=1529808611

Once you have found your home, you can move the teardrop indicator to the location of the antenna by drag-and-drop. As you move the teardrop, the coordinates below the map will follow.

I just ran through it and now that I see it, I know I've done it before -- maybe last winter. At any rate, I will PM you the link.

rabbit73 24-Jun-2018 3:22 AM

I edited the image, so there is a blank in your quote.

Thank you. I will work on it tomorrow.

rabbit73 24-Jun-2018 3:30 AM

I do not see the coordinates in the PM, just a TVFool report.

The coordinates would look something like this:

42.759854, -77.443830

They would be below the map after the indicator is at the antenna location.

What you did was create a Radar plot using the button at the upper right corner of the map.

Dagwood 24-Jun-2018 4:33 PM

Rabbit, I'm totally lost. I went to the link in post #47, used the alternate method there because I don't have a very high speed connection, and sent you the results.

Everything you've written after that leaves me clueless, including the rest of post 47 below the link. :(

rabbit73 24-Jun-2018 8:25 PM

Locations on a map are given using longitude and latitude coordinates.

If you are not able to give me the coordinates for your antenna location, an address, or an X on a map showing where you are in a PM, I will not be able to do an accurate terrain profile. Sorry.

rabbit73 27-Jun-2018 7:15 PM

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Thank you for the additional information by PM. This profile shows that the WUHF and other Rochester signals have a hard time getting to your antenna because of the hill that blocks a direct signal path.

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...2&d=1530126927

Nascarken 27-Jun-2018 11:38 PM

Antnna&signal ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 59968)
Thank you for the additional information by PM. This profile shows that the WUHF and other Rochester signals have a hard time getting to your antenna because of the hill that blocks a direct signal path.

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...2&d=1530126927

Looks like It's up with the ANTENNA maybe 40ft
Put it into the tv Fool report and see what you
Wined up with and set the ANTENNA on a 45/90AGL/DgAGL?
For that one channel i have looked into the tv Fool have
Playing with it by antennas higth by adding ft and pled
With the AGO frum,0,,to a 45DG,AGL.,too,a90 DGAGL?
What a BIG!! Improvement like a 1000+% so know!!
RAIBBIT.what does AGL,stand for does it stand for?DG,AGL?
On the tv Fool report? And you should move the ANTENNA too the
Left about 3.1/2 ft over TOO the left look at the picture of the tree's over the roof and
Where the ANTENNA is sitting know it's pointing right into the tree.?look ??

JoeAZ 28-Jun-2018 1:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascarken (Post 59969)
Looks like It's up with the ANTENNA maybe 40ft
Put it into the tv Fool report and see what you
Wined up with and set the ANTENNA on a 45/90AGL/DgAGL?
For that one channel i have looked into the tv Fool have
Playing with it by antennas higth by adding ft and pled
With the AGO frum,0,,to a 45DG,AGL.,too,a90 DGAGL?
What a BIG!! Improvement like a 1000+% so know!!
RAIBBIT.what does AGL,stand for does it stand for?DG,AGL?
On the tv Fool report? And you should move the ANTENNA too the
Left about 3.1/2 ft over TOO the left look at the picture of the tree's over the roof and
Where the ANTENNA is sitting know it's pointing right into the tree.?look ??

Thank goodness we have NASCARKEN to provide such insightfull
and knowledgeable content!

Tower Guy 29-Jun-2018 6:07 PM

AGL=Above Ground Level

Nascarken 29-Jun-2018 6:30 PM

Agl???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tower Guy (Post 59971)
AGL=Above Ground Level

Ok tower Gug!! AGL stands for Above ground level?
I think you are wrong becuse iT's after antennas higth of ft And then
ANTENNAs AGL of ANTENNA becuse on some ANTENNAs you can adjust the Agl
Frum 0,too a 35AGL,I know that the ANTENNA Direct 91xg,you can
Do that ? And their is an ANTENNA manufactures that sells stuff too
Put your antennas on a AGL.?

rabbit73 29-Jun-2018 11:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascarken (Post 59969)
RAIBBIT.what does AGL,stand for does it stand for?DG,AGL?

This is for AGL:

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...3&d=1530315082

This is for DG,AGL = Degrees Angle:

http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.p...4&d=1530315237

Nascarken 30-Jun-2018 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit73 (Post 59973)

Ok thank you Ribbit for the good information
happy,4of July to you and your family.
And everyone else on tv fool form.

Tower Guy 30-Jun-2018 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascarken (Post 59972)
Ok tower Gug!! AGL stands for Above ground level?
I think you are wrong becuse?

The FCC uses AGL to describe the height of the transmit antenna on a TV tower.


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