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pduggs
16-Aug-2011, 8:23 PM
I am looking to cut the cable and install an outdoor rooftop antenna.  My zip code is 49504.  My location is fairly flat with some large trees around.  I have a two story house that sits high.  The peak of my roof is probably 30 feet off the ground.
Can you suggest a good antenna for me?
John Candle
16-Aug-2011, 9:14 PM
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pduggs
18-Aug-2011, 6:46 PM
Thanks.
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A neighbor has the Winegard MS2000 and claims very good results.  I like its look and easy installation, but am afraid it may not get as many channels as would a larger conventional antenna.  Appreciate any responses.
GroundUrMast
18-Aug-2011, 8:53 PM
An amplified antenna such as the MS2000 could be overloaded by the strong signals from WXSP, WTLJ and WXMI.  I would recommend against the MS2000 and any other antenna with a built-in amplifier.
Are you interested in receiving every possible channel?  Or do you have a list of 'must-have' channels?
John Candle
18-Aug-2011, 10:00 PM
Go to the neighbors and see if . WXSP MyNetwork , WTLJ Religion , WXMI FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv , WGVU PBS , are being received , they are the strong channels that might overload the amplifier in the MS2000. If these channels are being received then you should be Ok also.  I say give the MS2000 a try.  Please note that omnidirectional antennas are not really 100 % omnidirectional and my need to turn the antenna for best reception and then tighten the clamps. If you receive Tv stations down to W17DF-D 17 you will be doing fine.  The stations that are below W17DF have co channel interference and adjacent channel interference so even with a better antenna you will still have reception problems with some of the co channel / adjacent channel interference channels.  .   Buy googling the stations call letters like this ,  w17df tv , I found that w17df tv is FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv .  w48cl tv is 3ANB 3 Angles Broadcasting Network , wuhq tv is ABC - The Cool Tv .
John Candle
18-Aug-2011, 10:33 PM
Here are some antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/90991.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html  .  Also read and understand this about , REAL Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Virtual Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Analog Broadcast Tv Channels , http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=695
John Candle
18-Aug-2011, 10:40 PM
You can use the cable tv coax for the antenna hook up , how ever Do Not connect the antenna and active cable service on to the same cable line at the same time. No active cable Tv , No active cable internet service , No active cable phone service. on the same cable line or lines that have the antenna connected also.
pduggs
19-Aug-2011, 3:11 PM
Go to the neighbors and see if . WXSP MyNetwork , WTLJ Religion , WXMI FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv , WGVU PBS , are being received , they are the strong channels that might overload the amplifier in the MS2000. If these channels are being received then you should be Ok also.  I say give the MS2000 a try.  Please note that omnidirectional antennas are not really 100 % omnidirectional and my need to turn the antenna for best reception and then tighten the clamps. If you receive Tv stations down to W17DF-D 17 you will be doing fine.  The stations that are below W17DF have co channel interference and adjacent channel interference so even with a better antenna you will still have reception problems with some of the co channel / adjacent channel interference channels.  .   Buy googling the stations call letters like this ,  w17df tv , I found that w17df tv is FOX - Antenna Tv - This Tv .  w48cl tv is 3ANB 3 Angles Broadcasting Network , wuhq tv is ABC - The Cool Tv .
Thank you both.  
I am only interested in getting the stations on the list down to W17DF-D.  I think I will buy the MS2000 and see how well it works.  If it overloads the strong stations I will return it.
Do you guys have any suggestions on where I should buy it?
pduggs
19-Aug-2011, 3:25 PM
Here are some antenna mounts , http://www.ronard.com/90991.html , http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html , http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html  .  Also read and understand this about , REAL Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Virtual Digital Broadcast Tv Channels , Analog Broadcast Tv Channels , http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=695
I have an old satellite dish on my roof.  The dish is not functioning.  I have seen ads showing the MS2000 mounted to the dish mount.  Is this a good idea?
mtownsend
19-Aug-2011, 4:14 PM
I think I will buy the MS2000 and see how well it works.  If it overloads the strong stations I will return it.
The thing about overloaded amps is that it affects all channels at the same time.  Even if you only have 1 strong channel, it might be enough to make all of your channels go away.  The channel corruption is not limited to just the strong channels.
I have an old satellite dish on my roof.  The dish is not functioning.  I have seen ads showing the MS2000 mounted to the dish mount.  Is this a good idea?
Yes, this can work, but you need to check a few things:
 - The MS-2000 can only accomodate a mast diameter of  up to 1-3/4".  Make sure the mast is not too big for the mount attachment.
 - Does the mount location give the antenna good visibility to the horizon in all directions?  The antenna can't pull in the stations if the building is blocking the signals.
 - Antennas work best when there is nothing around them.  Make sure the antenna is clear of any obstructions as much as possible, especially anything metal.
pduggs
19-Aug-2011, 4:43 PM
Thanks.
I just spoke with a antenna wholesale distributor and he claimed they do not carry the MS2000 any longer because of too many returns due to parts failing within a few months.  He recommended the Channel Master 3000A.  Any thoughts on that antenna?  As I understand it, it is very similar with the same as the MS2000.
John Candle
19-Aug-2011, 7:04 PM
Yes thats Channel Masters Newest one , the 3000A , yes use that one.
John Candle
19-Aug-2011, 7:37 PM
After you have had some time evaluate the 3000A for  , reception and quality and what ever else you think about it. Please tell us here at this post that you have started , do not start a new post as it causes confusion. I am always gathering information about antennas and Tv reception , also what is the name , address and phone number and web site of the wholesale distributor ,  Thank you.  Yes the dish mast mount is Ok to mount the 3000A. Mount the 3000A level with the ground , not tipped at odd angles or standing on end. Also as mtownsend said , it is best to mount the 3000A so it is clear of obstructions as much as possible nothing blocking the view of the antenna of all directions.
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