View Full Version : Need help trying to get ABC and CBS in hills of California
Brian50
13-Sep-2016, 12:32 AM
Hello all. Need some help getting major networks like Abc and Cbs. I'm located in the hills of Morgan Hill, California with lots of trees. I've tried a db8e with limited success. Picked up channel 8 nbc good and 13 fox ok at times. I had the antenna pointed 137. A friend thinks a larger antenna would help. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to load tv fool report. My zip is 95037
Brian50
13-Sep-2016, 12:44 AM
This is my report. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de2cbab90882ce4
ADTech
13-Sep-2016, 1:47 PM
If your plot is accurate, your prospects can only be described as "very bleak". I do not see anything that makes me optimistic that you're going to get a full set of local networks, no matter what you do.
The question then comes down to "what is the minimum needed to be called a success"?
The stations from Monterrey come from two locations. The two VHF stations you picked up (with a UHF antenna, even) are on the easternmost side of the valley. The rest of the network broadcasters are on the western side of the valley and you have a 1900' ASL peak dead in your signal path. Since the UHF stations are all modestly powered, their signals are insufficient to diffract over those terrain obstructions with enough signal power to make the trip to your lower elevation, estimated at around 800'.
rabbit73
13-Sep-2016, 3:21 PM
I agree with ADTech, it doesn't look good.
I suggest an MCM 30-2476 VHF-High antenna aimed at 137 degrees magnetic for
KSBW 8 NBC and ABC
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=station_search&callsign=ksbw
and
KCBA 13 Fox
KION CBS 32, NM -18.8 dB, is too weak for reliable reception
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/STELLAR-LABS-30-2476-/30-2476
The 30-2476 is inexpensive, has poor assembly instructions, but usually performs well.
It looks like this up in the air:
http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2307&stc=1&d=1473780379
http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2308&stc=1&d=1473785120
http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2309&stc=1&d=1473785120
Try it without a preamp first.
rabbit73
13-Sep-2016, 5:12 PM
This is the tvfool terrain profile for KSBW. The transmitter is at the left; your location is at the right.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de2cbab90882ce4%26t%3dALLTV%26n%3d2
This is the KCBA profile. Note that only about 10% of the 19.750 kW of the transmitted ERP reaches your location because of the directional pattern of the transmitting antenna.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de2cbab90882ce4%26t%3dALLTV%26n%3d6
KCBA terrain profile using different software:
http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2310&stc=1&d=1473790911
The MCM 30-2476 has a tilt feature. It might be helpful to tilt the front of the antenna up to catch the signals from the mountain peak.
http://forum.tvfool.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2312&stc=1&d=1473805873
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