need help with antenna selection

[Charlie84]

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d5b94e95fff978e

being researching and googling trying to find information in which I am comfortable

have been reading posts here off and on..all of you seem to be above my paygrade in information

my house is wired with a direct tv dish and it works..but dont want the expense

any help will be appreciated

would like to get
abc-kspr
cbs-kolr
nbc-kytv
krbk-fox

[GroundUrMast]

Your stated goals are doable. I would suggest you be prepared to place as much or more importance on the location of your antenna(s) as the choice of antenna. The antennas(s) will need to be up in the clear, unobstructed by nearby trees and buildings including yours.

I would consider using a tripod and 10' mast at the peak of the roof. However I would want to prove I had a usable signal before drilling into the roof.

Consider the combination of the Antennas Direct DB8e (UHF) + Antennacraft Y10713 (High-VHF) + RCA TVPRAMP1R (preamplifier).

Point the Y10713 at 340° (compass) to see real CH 10 & CH-13 (CBS & PBS).

Though they can be adjusted to aim in different directions, start with the DB8e panels facing the same direction. Face the array toward 330° approx. adjust both aim and panel alignment to maximize your reception.

Per rabbitears.info, http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=station_search&callsign=KWBM#station KWBM simulcasts KRBK (Fox).

[Charlie84]

thanks..to summarize your post
i can "possibly" get 3 of the channels with the uhf db8e

and you think the Y10713 is strong enough (using only the theory that it does NOT cost a lot compared to other long range antennas)

i have looked at other antennas in neighborhood and they all appear to bigger versions of theY10713 looks like a "winegard" monster

about to search this forum for info on preamp's

i just like to research a lot before i invest

[teleview]

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95% of the reception information provided here at tvfool.

Is Basic Antennas and Reception information.

And is not above pay grade.

We here in the USA and Canada are now 2 generations removed from a time when the only way to receive Tv was with a Tv antenna.

And Many People had a Basic knowledge of Broadcast Tv Reception , What antenna or antennas to use for the area of reception and where the Tv transmitters are located.

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For reception of your channels list.

KSPR , ABC and The CW.

KOLR , CBS.

KYTV , NBC.

KWBM , Daystar and Digital sub channel , FOX.

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Install a , http://www.antennacraft.net , HBU44 antenna Above the Peak of the Roof in such a manner that the roof and building are not , obstructing , impeding , blocking , reception , in the directions of , North West , West , South East , North East.

Aim the HBU44 antenna at about 330 degree magnetic compass direction.

Here is how to aim antennas , http://www.kyes.com/antenna/pointing/pointing.html.

Use a Real and Actual magnetic compass to aim antenna.

As always the starting antenna aim direction is the --->starting antenna aim direction.

The antenna aim direction and the location of the antenna can be adjusted for best reception.

Most Digital Tv's have a , Signal Strength Meter , and some digital Tv's also have a , Signal Quality Meter.

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Install a , RCA , TVPRAMP1R , preamplifier.

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For 1 Tv connected use No splitter.

For 2 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-2D , 2 way splitter.

For 3 Tv's connected use a , Holland Electronics , HFS-3D , 3 way splitter.

Buy the , HFS-2D and HFS-3D , splitters at , http://www.solidsignal.com , or , http://www.hollandelectronics.com.

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Here are some places to buy antennas and etc. .

http://www.antennacraft.net.

http://www.amazon.com.

http://www.solidsignal.com.

http://www.hollandelectronics.com.

http://www.ronard.com.

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Here are some above the roof antenna mounts.

http://www.ronard.com/909911.html.
Use the , ronard(911) , 5 foot tripod antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/34424560.html.
Use the , ronard(4560) , eave antenna mount.

http://www.ronard.com/ychim.html.
Measure around the chimney and use a , ronard(2212) , ronard(2218) , ronard(2224) .

Buy the ronard antenna mounts at , http://www.solidsignal.com , by typing , ronard(x) , in the solidsignal search box or buy from , http://www.ronard.com.

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In addition to your channels you have requested , also be looking for.

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KOZL , Independent Tv Station.

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KOZK , PBS. Ozark Public Broadcasting.

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K26GS-D , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K26GS-D.

COZi Tv , Antenna Tv , This Tv , Me-Tv .

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KEMV , PBS , Arkansas Educational Tv Network.

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As Always , trees and tree leaves , plants and plant leaves , have a Negative Effect on Broadcast Tv Reception and so do buildings and other obstructions including your own roof and building.

Some and not all Negative Effects are.

Absorbing and Blocking Tv Reception in the dorections of reception.

Multi-Path Reflecting Tv Signals Bouncing All Around.

The Best Practice is to install the antenna at a location that has the least amount to no amount of obstructions of any type or kind in the directions of reception including your own roof and building.

[GroundUrMast]

thanks..to summarize your post
i can "possibly" get 3 of the channels with the uhf db8e

and you think the Y10713 is strong enough (using only the theory that it does NOT cost a lot compared to other long range antennas)

i have looked at other antennas in neighborhood and they all appear to bigger versions of theY10713 looks like a "winegard" monster

about to search this forum for info on preamp's

i just like to research a lot before i invest

The Y10713 is a 'cut-for-band' antenna. It's a specialty antenna intended for reception of High-VHF (real channels 7 through 13) only. In that role, it's the best performing product available until you step up to an industrial / commercial option. I paid less than $20 for mine recently, and am quite confident that this is the best option available when going after medium and weak strength H-VHF signals.

The DB8e is also a cut-to-band antenna, but designed for UHF, real CH-14 through CH-51. It can be adjusted for narrow forward beam or wide forward beam. The combination of the DB8e and Y10713 offer you the ability to fine tune aim more than a single antenna with multi-band coverage.

I own a TVPRAMP1R and use it in an application that has considerably stronger signals than shown in your report. I have had no overloading problems, a common problem with high gain amplifiers. It's also on of the few amplifiers that has separate inputs for a UHF and VHF antenna. http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=13530

[Charlie84]

thanks to both of you for your recommendations
will let you how it works out

[Charlie84]

About to place the order. Haven't really decided which way to go

But are both your suggestions considered the " big guns".
By that, are there any other antenna's that would be the next level for a few dollars more

I am not sure return of antennas would be an easy job, considering shipping , re ordering and etc.

A few dollars more to get it right the 1st time

Thanks

[teleview]

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All the recommended antennas are the big guns for your reception situation.